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TSU600 and RF extender problem
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| Topic: | TSU600 and RF extender problem This thread has 10 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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| Post 1 made on Monday October 25, 2004 at 21:40 |
Grego Long Time Member |
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I usually alias to all my codes stored in the home page. On this install I had to transmitt to an RFX6000 in another system for Tivo,while still sending IR to the existing system (xantech dinky link).
I tried to put my alaised codes for the Tivo in a new "device", and changed the new device properties to RF. The problem was the remote was still sending the Tivo commands IR.
I changed the properties of my TIVO device page( no codes-just alaises) to RF and they worked with the RFX.
The problem is now the volume and mute buttons will not work RF to the receiver but work IR to the receiver on the other system!(same brand and code set).
Can I alais RF codes in the device pages or do they have to be in the home page?
Anyone had this problem before?
Thanks for your quick reply's.
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| Post 2 made on Monday October 25, 2004 at 23:40 |
Peter Dewildt Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2001 6,307 |
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It is most unusual to put IR codes on your home page.
You would normally store your IR codes using a different Pronto Device for each piece of equipment you have.
Then you invidually set a Pronto Device to be IR or RF.
Any aliases to your codes will transmit RF or IR according to how the target device where the actual codes are stored is set up.
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Peter Pronto 1000 (retired), Pronto TSU7000, RFX6000 (retired) Pronto 2xTSU9600, RFX9400 |
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| Post 3 made on Tuesday October 26, 2004 at 00:53 |
bomberjim Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2001 3,894 |
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Yeah, as Peter said, unusual to store codes in the home page. As Peter implied, if you have codes under home, there is no way to get them to transmit in RF, only IR. RF is only available for codes physically located in a device which is set to RF.
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| OP | Post 4 made on Tuesday October 26, 2004 at 07:41 |
Grego Long Time Member |
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On 10/26/04 03:40 ET, Peter Dewildt said...
It is most unusual to put IR codes on your home page. the codes were stored in the home page so I can access them later without using a CPU and change the codes to a different brand by teaching the home codes. on the new TSU7000 I am able to alaia to RF codes in different locations. Any aliases to your codes will transmit RF or IR according to how the target device where the actual codes are stored is set up. I tried to do this originaly.didn't work. on the new TSU7000 I am able to alais to RF codes in different locations.Is this not possible in the 6000? Also do you know of a work around to get the 6000 to send Both RF and IR?
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| Post 5 made on Tuesday October 26, 2004 at 11:27 |
bomberjim Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2001 3,894 |
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Yes, it works on a 6000, and yes you can send both RF and IR, even in a single macro.
Peter outlined the procedure rather well. First, forget aliases for the moment, and concentrate only on the actual codes (learned or copied). Store these codes on a page in the device for that particular piece of gear. In other words, all your learned codes for your receiver will be in the receiver device. After this is done, set Device Properties for the appropriate transmission method (IR or RF) and insure that the channel ID corresponds to what is set on the extender. Also insure that System Properties (under home) is set to RF. Now you're ready to use aliases. You can then alias to these codes from any other button/page (even the home page) in your ccf and the transmission method will be as set in the device you aliased TO.
Quick rule of thumb is: It's the transmission method of the TARGET of an alias that determines the transmission, not where the alias is located.
EDIT: I reread your original post and am wondering, are you asking if you can send a code BOTH as IR and RF at the same time? If so, the answer is no, it's one or the other.
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| OP | Post 6 made on Tuesday October 26, 2004 at 22:05 |
Grego Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2004 437 |
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Jim,
Thanks a lot for your help. I guess I should of mentioned that I am a custom installer and my company has installed hundreds of Pronto's. We only started to use RF extenders because the new digital cable boxes in our area weren't working with our Plasma proof IR receivers.
I usually send the TV codes IR and everything else RF (emitters ruin the look of a $7000 TV) without a hitch with the TSU7000.
Of course the only time a situation like this doesn't work properly is when I am installing my bosses old TSU6000 Pronto in his master bedroom. He has a receiver that needs IR and a Tivo and MP3 server that need RF downstairs.(there is a new TSU7000 working RF for the theater)
I tried to alais the codes to a new device I called "RF codes". I changed the properties of the new device to the same ID as The RFX in his home theater. This allowed the Tivo and MP3 server to be accessed on his bedroom Plasma. I left no codes under Vol up,dn,and mute figuring they would punch through to the Home Properties.
When I originally tried this method nothing worked and his IR receiver was flashing telling me that the Pronto was still sending IR. I double checked my alaises and they were looking at the "RF codes" Page as planned.
Here's where it gets strange. When I changed the Properties of the TIVO device pages, The codes worked and I thought I was set until the receiver downstairs was muting and such from my receiver punch.
Acording to the reply's here my methods should have worked. I wasn't sure how the 6000 worked with RF.
I also tried re-aliasing these codes as well as teaching them under the actual buttons.
Thats when I thought I would ask for advice. I apperciate the help given tremendously.
This one really has me stumped.
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| Post 7 made on Wednesday October 27, 2004 at 01:08 |
bomberjim Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2001 3,894 |
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On 10/27/04 02:05 ET, Grego said...
I tried to alais the codes to a new device I called "RF codes". I changed the properties of the new device to the same ID as The RFX in his home theater. This allowed the Tivo and MP3 server to be accessed on his bedroom Plasma. I left no codes under Vol up,dn,and mute figuring they would punch through to the Home Properties. Just so I understand, this device (RF codes) that you aliased to. It actually contained real codes, not just aliases to somewhere else? If so, it sounds like it should have worked. When I originally tried this method nothing worked and his IR receiver was flashing telling me that the Pronto was still sending IR. I double checked my alaises and they were looking at the "RF codes" Page as planned.
Here's where it gets strange. When I changed the Properties of the TIVO device pages, The codes worked and I thought I was set until the receiver downstairs was muting and such from my receiver punch. This could be explained if the RF codes device was merely aliasing back to the "real" codes which were in the TiVo device. Hence, my question above.
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| OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday October 27, 2004 at 06:36 |
Grego Long Time Member |
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On 10/27/04 05:08 ET, bomberjim said...
Just so I understand, this device (RF codes) that you aliased to. It actually contained real codes, not just aliases to somewhere else? If so, it sounds like it should have worked. Thats what I thought. Yes RF CODES had actual codes stored in it, I just dragged them from the home page where they were with all the other codes. Thanks Jim
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| Post 9 made on Wednesday October 27, 2004 at 11:28 |
bomberjim Super Member |
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Only other thing I can think of is that if you dragged them, you'd have had to re-alias all the links since the old ones wouldn't have been broken.
If you want, e-mail me the ccf (address is in my profile) and I'll take a look. Just give me some additional pointers as to which buttons you wanted to transmit in RF. I'm not a dealer or installer, just a consumer, so anything proprietary is not in jeopardy.
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Jim L  |
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| OP | Post 10 made on Wednesday October 27, 2004 at 18:09 |
Grego Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2004 437 |
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I am going back tommorrow. I will let you know how things turn out.
Thanks a lot.
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| OP | Post 11 made on Thursday October 28, 2004 at 19:11 |
Grego Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2004 437 |
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Well I fixed the Problem. The TSU 6000 needed a firmware update. The remote was several years old.
I did discover that I still had to change the device properties of whatever user pages I wanted, alaised or not, to RF. This puzzled me and the installer I was with, but thats the only way it would work.
I was , however, able to alais to IR codes hidden in the home page for volume up, down, mute, and the wide modes for the TV.
Has anyone ever actually alaised to RF codes in a different device using Pronto Edit and had this work?
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