I just got my tsu 2000 today. I am the epitimy of a newb. I've managed to get most of the stuff I want into the remote with the layout I want. My problem is that I need to extend the discrete power on,power off, and video input keys for my Mitsubishi wt-46807 TV. you can get the discrete codes here:

[Link: remotecentral.com]

I don't mind doing it myself, but I have no knowledge of hex what so ever. Since its all discrete codes I can't do the learn IR way. I have done searches but haven't found anything. If I hold down the icons on the remote it works fine. Its the macros that keep failing.. they are driving me insane !!!!!!!! thank you all in advance.

J

Since they are discrete, you could always double or tripple them up as well.


As for the Discrete hex, Its very simple. Take the Hex code in the files section, Hightlight the Hex Code and Copy it (CTRL+C) then go to your Pronto Edit Go into the Properies of your button and go to SET IR There shoudl be a window at the bottom of the screen, if not click the button that says VIEW IR.

Paste the hex code into that window (CTRL+V) Hit apply and your all set

Impaqt,

Reread the post. J has the codes on his remote already. It works fine when he presses the button himself. As he stated, he's having problems with the macros.

J,

This is what I did, which is the simplest way of doing so. Was to make the button a "macro" itself. I would do as Impaqt said, but more than once in the same button. So that with one press will send out the same code more than once. Two, three or more times as needed. This is not the best way to go, but it worked for me.

When I wanted that button in a macro, I would alais to the button that has the correct amount of copies of that same code so that it will work for me when I pressed the macro button.

Rob

If the buttons really need to be held for a noticable period when used manually the probably more than three times would be required in a macro, maybe a lot more.

The codes on that page that have 0000 0011 as the third and fourth values should be possible to extend by aliasing multiple copies. The ones (such as Antenna B) that don't have 0000 0011 there, either need more advanced methods or need to be corrected before they would work aliased multiple times.

It's possible that TV doesn't really require the signal extended (I've never heard that Mitsubishi TV's require that). Maybe it just needs a delay between certain commands in a macro. I think that's easier to program into the TSU2000 (though I don't happen to know how).

the off seems to work well and i can get the inputs to work speradicly. it seems like its the on button that is giving me problems. So the ones with the 3rd and 4th set of values that are 0000 0011 i can just repeat, but how would i repeat the power on button ? I will adjust the inputs and adjust the timing, what do you all reccomend for timing between steps?

Thanks so much for all of your help already!

With Mitsubishi, Timing can be a problem...... These sets tend to not accept IR for random periods of time after strat up. Sometimes 3 seconds, and I've observed as much as 9 seconds.

TV Power ON should be the first step of your Macro. I usually use a .3 or .5 delay between commands.

Now, if your doing one big macro to turn the system ON and set it to the correct input, your going to need a LOT of delay between TV ON and your Input select. So, TV ON first, then all your other commands, then probobly a 6-7 seconds delay, THEN the Input switch.

With Mits TV's I usually end up doing a "System ON" button that fires the TV and Surround receiver up first, then all my "Watch DVD, Watch TV" and stuff like that only need to send input switches. Makes the system operate much smoother and quicker.

I put in large delays still no worky :-( the issue seems to be that it won't even turn on. i repeated the signal 30 times in a macro and then put that macro in 3 times still wouldn't turn on the tv, however if i swith to the screen for the remote and hold the button for 1.5 seconds i hear the tv click on.. Getting extremely frustrated!!!! any more ideas?

Question:
in the button that is working, how many times does the code repeat itself when pressed continuously for 1,5 seconds?
Could it be that you just need to repeat it say 60 times in the same button in order to have the required 1,5 seconds continuous sending?
Not a very scientific approach, so it's OK if you laugh at me for beeing ridiculous (but only after trying it...)

There is a way to make a macro that simluates a long button hold.

First, learn the code (you already have).

Second, when you keep holding down the factory button, the code repeats...except for the BEGINNING of the code. When you make a macro of the code repeating, the set keeps seeing the BEGINNING over and over, so it never sees a long code.

So...learn the repeating part. Make another button (on a hidden page), then when you go to learn the button, hit the button you want to learn on,cover the Mits remote's IR emitter, hit the ON button, and after a half second or so, remove your hand and learn the part of the code that is now repeating.

Now make a macro that is the first code that you learned, once, followed by a bunch of the second part.

I did this with a JVC projector that needed two seconds of hold-down and it works. I had to have eleven repeats of the second part. We don't know, though -- this still might not work.

I believe the signal we are talking about is
0000 007e 0008 0011 000a 0046 000a 001e 000a 001e 000a 001e 000a 001e 000a 0046 000a 001e 000a 037d 000a 0046 000a 0046 000a 0046 000a 001e 000a 001e 000a 001e 000a 0046 000a 001e 000a 001e 000a 0046 000a 001e 000a 001e 000a 001e 000a 001e 000a 0046 000a 001e 000a 037d
That is an unclean learn of Mitsubishi protocol, device 71, command 66.
Because it's an unclean learn, you can't just repeat it multiple times. It isn't really a two part (one_time and repeating) signal as it seems to be, so Ernie's suggestion to relearn the parts seperately wouldn't help. Also, I assume Joshua doesn't know the trick with the Mitsubishi remote to get it to send this signal, so he can't learn it at all.

With my MakeHex program, I constructed a clean copy of device 71, command 66:
0000 007F 0000 0011 000A 0045 000A 0045 000A 0045 000A 001D 000A 001D 000A 001D 000A 0045 000A 001D 000A 001D 000A 0045 000A 001D 000A 001D 000A 001D 000A 001D 000A 0045 000A 001D 000A 030F

The solution might be as simple as using a bunch of copies of that. There are more advanced methods if that doesn't work.

If you hold that clean version pressed for 1.5 seconds, it will send 29 copies of the basic frame.

I'm not sure what happens if you alias it 29 times. It might send just 29 copies, but someone told me in another thread that for this type of signal it would send three times as many as the number of times you alias it, so you might want to alias it just 10 times.

Also it adds a little delay between each. That means sending it 29 times will take a little longer than 1.5 seconds. If that's ok with the TV then it just slows the macro a little. If the TV needs the repeats at full speed then there may be another approach.