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Hard buttons IR, everything else RF?
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Post 1 made on Wednesday October 29, 2003 at 14:19
Rich X
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I'm having trouble with the RF extender. It seems to work fine with all of my equipment except for my pre/pro, which is an Anthem AVM-2. I can't seem to get the RF functionality to work for the Anthem--IR works fine.

I could live with continuing to use IR for the Anthem and RF for everything else except for one additional problem. When I set my other devices to RF and leave the Anthem on IR, I am not able to control the Anthem with the hard buttons to raise, lower volume and mute, unless I am on the Anthem page. This is a real pain.

Is there any way to fix this?
Post 2 made on Wednesday October 29, 2003 at 15:48
bomberjim
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Sure, anything can be fixed -- almost. Probably the easiest thing to do is set every device in your ccf to RF. Make sure the System Properties (under home) is also set to RF. For those hard button commands that you want to be IR, either copy and paste the codes to the buttons under system properties (not device properties) or learn them directly (no aliases) under system properties.

There are other methods, but that's probably the quickest.

Jim L
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Post 3 made on Wednesday October 29, 2003 at 16:04
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An alternative would be to create a new IR device which has only the codes you need in IR. Alias the hard buttons on all devices to those codes - even if the device that you are on itself is set to RF, it will continue to transmit IR for those buttons.
Having once decided to achieve a certain task, achieve it at all costs of tedium and distaste. The gain in self-confidence of having accomplished a tiresome labor is immense. -----Arnold Bennett
OP | Post 4 made on Wednesday October 29, 2003 at 17:19
Rich X
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Based on your suggestions, I'm very confused as to why it is not working the way it is currently set up. I'm new to the pronto so please bear with me.

For example, when I am on the page that controls my cable box and I use the hard buttons for volume those buttons control the volume on my pre/pro. When everything is set to IR it all works fine, but when I set the cable box to RF and leave the pre/pro in IR the hard buttons no longer work.

If I learn the volume up/down buttons directly on System properties will it correct this? Again I want to set every device except my pre/pro to RF (becase RF does not seem to work for this pre/pro).
Post 5 made on Wednesday October 29, 2003 at 22:10
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Here's the deal. It's not the device you're in that necessarily controls IR or RF, it's the device that the SOURCE code is in. Where an alias is pointing to.

So if you're in the Cable device (cable set to RF) and you press a button that is ALIASed to the Pre-Pro device and the Pre-Pro device is set to IR then the code will be sent IR. Even though your in the Cable device. In other words aliases don't count. It's where the code you're pointing to is located (device wise) that determines transmission method.

Although this may sound like an unnecessarily confusing design, it's actually good. It enables macros that can be mixed IR and RF.

Jim L
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Post 6 made on Thursday October 30, 2003 at 00:46
Lyndel McGee
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All,

What you are saying is theoretically correct. However, DrHB on this site is using the RC9200 and has had problems such as this. May be pilot error but, as a result, he ended up duplicating each device 2 times (IR & RF) to resolve the issue.

You might drop him an email if you are using the RC5200/RC9200.

mailto://[email protected]

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Post 7 made on Thursday October 30, 2003 at 01:17
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Lyndel,

I don't think that was Harris's (drhb's) problem. He was TRYING to get two devices for each piece of gear so he could use IR in the main room, and RF if he was elsewhere in the house. The problem he was having was he couldn't get it work AFTER he created the dual devices. Eventually he got it to work. Just my humble recolection. ;-)

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OP | Post 8 made on Thursday October 30, 2003 at 08:28
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Hmmmm...This makes sense, BUT (there's always a but isn't there?--in this case it may be me) with the way I have it set up now don't I already have the buttons "aliased"?

When I'm in the cable device and I press the volume hard button the volume on my pre/pro changes--as long as the cable device is set to IR. When I set the cable device to RF (leaving the pre/pro in IR) and try to use the volume button it does not work--the soft controls on the cable device page do work.
Post 9 made on Thursday October 30, 2003 at 12:28
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Rich,

If you want me to look at your ccf, e-mail it to me (address is in my profile). If you do, tell me which gear you want to be controlled by IR and which by RF. Fixing it may or may not be a quick job, but at least I should be able to offer some suggestions.

Jim L
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OP | Post 10 made on Thursday October 30, 2003 at 12:36
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Jim,
Thanks for the offer. I'm going to play with it some more tonight and if I can't get it straightened out, I'll send it to you.

Rich


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