The SNL program does NOT work with these new remotes because of the incompatability of both the Compiler/Decompiler program and the SNL program, with the new screen sizes.

In order to use the SNL program, is there a way to MANUALLY edit the cd lists to add more cds, without entering the SNL program itself?? Perhaps there is a way to add cds to the xml lists, or some other list, so that new entries will appear there.

OR, is there some other workaround to use the SNL program with these new remotes??

I would appreciate anyone's help on this!


This message was edited by drhb on 01/06/02 21:20.07.

The only thing that might work (until the next version of C/D) is to create a simple IR panel (in a different CCF) with only the numbers and anything else needed by SNL. Then save it in a C/D compatible version. Use that CCF to make your CD/DVD list. Then all you need to do is merge your CCF and the CD/DVD CCF.

Anthony, thanks for the help. Sounds like a good idea, and I shall try it. BTW, I emailed both Olivier (for an update on the c/d), and Leo, to request an update. Leo is apparantly tied up with work, and the hope for an SNL update is dim at this point.. :-(
Best,
Harris

Harris,

Did you try Anthony's suggestion? Did it work?

Geoff

Geoff, sort of... When you reconvert the SNL screens from 5000i ccf format to the 5200 format, you still get a space above and below the screen, on every page. Moreover, all hard buttons are incorrect; the only way to avoid the latter is to delete ANY hard button references in the SNL, and then to manually put them back when the final, 5200 ccf is merged with the pages made with SNL. It is really a hassle, and frankly what I am doing until Leo is able to free up the time (and Olivier, with the required decompiler program, which also needs to be changed to work with the 52/9200), is to manually add new buttons with cd titles and aliases, as if they were put in by the SNL program. Hope an update arrives soon...:-)
Best,
Harris

Making SNL output more buttons per panel is probably not too difficult (I'd have to look at the source) but if the compiler/decompiler doesn't support it (e.g. it checks the coordinates are not outside the old screen area) there's not much I can do.

If someone gives it a try and finds that the c/d will happily generate buttons outside the screen area drop me an email and I'll look at making SNL output more buttons per page.

I've just checked in source code and coordinate values
are not tested at all, so putting buttons outside screen area (240 x 219) should not cause any problem.

FYI, I'm starting to add support for RC5200/9200
in Compiler/Decompiler. :-))

Once again a lot of work..
So please be patient.

Olivier Couvreur

Leo and Olivier, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU..!!!!!! Your efforts and generous time expended, are VERY much appreciated. At least there is light at the end of the tunnel, and there is hope that it is doable!!!! Leo, I tried it with my ccf, and the SNL will not generate anything outside of the screen area; after reconverting back to the 5200 format from the 5000 format, the screen is the standard 5000 size, with the top and bottom of the 5200 left blank. Olivier, unfortunately, as you no doubt have discovered, the c/d will not recognize as valid, a 5200/9200 ccf; and when converted to the 5000 format and after using c/d and then reconverting it, as noted, the top and bottom of the page is cut off. The ccf I sent to both of you is VERY complex, and if either program is made to work with it, it will no doubt work with ANY 5200 or 9200 program. At least there is hope indeed; I feared that it would be too much of a problem to upgrade both of the programs...:....

Hope to hear from both of you soon. Leo, and Olivier, I wish I could be more of a help, but I am computer challenged. However, if there is ANYTHING I can do via beta testing of either of your programs, please feel free to drop me a line ([email protected]).
Good Luck & Best Regards,
Harris


This message was edited by drhb on 01/12/02 16:49.25.

Thanks for the info Olivier!

Harris, could you try this out and let me know how it works for you:

[Link: ox.compsoc.net]

There isn't quite enough space for two more rows, certainly not without keeping the line at the bottom, but I added two anyway and now you can't see the bottom line (which was really a semi-useful space-filler anyway) and there's a couple of pixels missing off the heading but I figure it's more useful this way.

Need to make the heading graphic slightly smaller I guess...

Let me know if it works and I'll link it from the webpage. If anyone else with a bigger-screen remote wants to try it feel free.

Leo

Thanks again Leo, (and Olivier!) for your efforts!!!
(Please ignore the post I just placed; the following is now correct...:-):
The test SNL program was installed in the wrong directory by me, and thus I got bad info...)

It is a VERY noticable improvement! After putting it in the correct directory, indeed the actual pages are placed flush with the top of the screen after reconversion by TouchscreenEdit back to the 5200 format, rather than being centered with a space at the top and the bottom. Also noted are more entries per page on those pages with more than 9 buttons; ie, now there are indeed up to 14 bars. (Note that only the 5200 conversion to 5000 ccf format works; otherwise, with a 5200 ccf format, one still gets a ccfdll error).

The alphabet page looks the same; ie, it is still centered with a space at the top and the bottom. Perhaps as you noted, other icons (or spacing...) can fill in the larger page format better.

Also, as you noted, Leo, the navigation bar at the bottom of each individual page is now gone. This isn't a problem, as if there are more than one page, one could see the presence of a "down" arrow. I think it is much better to use as much space as possible for additional buttons.

Also, I am not sure if the aliases to the hard buttons would have to be changed; as you know, the order of the side buttons on the 52/9200 is reversed from prior versions of these remotes, and there are the other 5 programmable buttons and the 4 on the touchpad.....

Hope this feedback helps!

Talk with you soon,

Best,
Harris

This message was edited by drhb on 01/13/02 19:07.06.

I have tried this 5200 version uf supernudelist,
it works fine except........

The first header bar is almost pushed off the top of the screen.
This makes it almost invisible.

Can't seem to switch on and off the bottom menu bar, not sure if that would make a difference.

Is anybody else using this?

Thanks,
Bruce.

Bruce,

It's not just you; that's just the way it is. This version was more just a test, really. Proper support for the larger screen remotes really needs a new layout to be designed, or at least for the existing button sizes to be tweaked slightly.

No problem Leo,

Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going mad!!

Look forward to the next version.

Thanks,
Bruce.