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emulating with TSU2000 and Pronto Edit
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| Topic: | emulating with TSU2000 and Pronto Edit This thread has 7 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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| Post 1 made on Wednesday December 19, 2001 at 13:43 |
vibes Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 11 |
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Hi good people,
I have found a few great CCFs which match my components on the remotecentral web site, and have downloaded them to my PC. I have encountered a problem when I try to use the emulator to see how well the CCF works with my system. The commands don't work all time, and some commands don't work at all. I emulated using some of the original command files shipped with the software, and all seems to work fine. Is there something that I am overlooking related to the downloaded CCFs? I took the chance and merged the CCF, with my original file,(after saving a copy of the original for emergency purposes of course), and the remote then has no problems with the commands. I would like to know if anyone has seen this problem. I would much prefer to emulate to make sure that the CCF performs like I would expect it to, before downloading to the Pronto.
I seemed to have read a post on the site yesterday titled "Emulator Crash After Pasting IR Codes",(original date of the post was 12-27-00) but I do not fully understand the the post. If this seems relevant to my question, could someone clarify the post.
Thanks,
Vibes
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| Post 2 made on Wednesday December 19, 2001 at 14:23 |
Anthony Ultimate Member |
Joined: Posts: | May 2001 28,798 |
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vibes if you tell us the exact problem "The commands don't work all time, and some commands don't work at all. " then we might be able to help more there are three things that relate to the emulator, IR, and Merged CCFs
1) Like you said in PE V2, you cannot rename IR codes, and when you do a paste PE gets rid of the label. The emulator (and only the emulator) does not like unnamed IR codes. so if you push a button with an unnamed IR code (or an alias to an unnamed IR code) then the emulator will crash.
2) The Emulator has the ability to send IR if the Pronto is connected to the PC. If you press on a button with a macro, the delay (if there is one) will get eaten up (end up shorter) so if the button sends 321 and it normally works, when done using the emulator the TV might only read 31
3) When you merge CCFs you tend to get rid of unwanted stuff. Sometimes the IR codes are not situated at the same place, so you might have deleted them and the buttons now have no action (at least no IR function)
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| OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday December 19, 2001 at 16:51 |
vibes Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 11 |
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Anthony,
What happens is that when I use the emulator to test the CCF file, and press buttons to control my receiver,the receiver responds slowly, or does not respond at all to some of those actions. Note: When I used the Pronto alone, with the same CCF file, the device (my receiver) responds exactly as it should, so I suspect that all IR codes are where they are supposed to be.
I guess that I should be happy that the CCF (which is an exact match for my Yamaha receiver) is working great, but I would hate to have to load CCFs into my Pronto to see how it works, when that is what the software emulator should be used for.
Hope this explanation is somewhat clearer!
Thanks,
Vibes
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| Post 4 made on Wednesday December 19, 2001 at 17:39 |
Peter Dewildt Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2001 6,307 |
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Learning codes and sending codes do not always work the same way in the emulator because of timing issues. Don't design your CCF around what happens in the emulator - use your Pronto directly. The emulator is not really intended for testing codes - it is intended more for testing the look and feel.
This message was edited by Peter Dewildt on 12/19/01 17:39.25.
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Peter Pronto 1000 (retired), Pronto TSU7000, RFX6000 (retired) Pronto 2xTSU9600, RFX9400 |
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| Post 5 made on Thursday December 20, 2001 at 13:48 |
Anthony Ultimate Member |
Joined: Posts: | May 2001 28,798 |
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Like Peter said, you should not use the PC for getting or testing IR. The PC is a strange multipurpose animal and is usually doing many things at the same time. IR is very time sensitive, so the PC and the transmission over the cable distorts stuff. The emulator is there to test design, and for that it is good.
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| OP | Post 6 made on Thursday December 20, 2001 at 22:26 |
vibes Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 11 |
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Guys,
Thanks for all of your help. My Pronto works well when it wants to, and shuts down when it wants. It seems to shut down when it is required to process a lot of information quickly. I callled by Audio/Video store, and my salesperson will swap my Pronto out for a new one. Wish me luck with the new one.
Thanks,
Vibes
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| Post 7 made on Thursday December 20, 2001 at 23:37 |
Peter Dewildt Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2001 6,307 |
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Low batteries can result in the behaviour you describe.
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Peter Pronto 1000 (retired), Pronto TSU7000, RFX6000 (retired) Pronto 2xTSU9600, RFX9400 |
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| Post 8 made on Friday December 21, 2001 at 01:47 |
Joel Warren Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2001 1,487 |
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You will be able to see the look and feel of the CCF on the emulator, but you will not know for sure if the codes actually work until you download it to the Pronto and try it there. The emulator is unreliable with regard to learning and testing the workings of a CCF--as Peter and Anthony have said.
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