now that i've properly warned all those out there who hate helping "lame" newbies, on to my first-of-many-to-come Newbie questions:

preface: i just got my prontoTU2000 yesterday.
i was having a fun-old time manually programming all my remote buttons onto the configuration i've created over the past couple of months with prontoedit.

problem: when i attempted to program an echostar 6000 box to be switched to channel 9-4-4-0 by "learning IR" for each number it would do nothing to my box...
now, i've heard that sometimes you need to "wake up" certain components, but i never heard how you do this. is this my problem? if so, how do i "wake up" my 6000? that's all...for now.
thanks for any help you can give me.
man these things are cool

Might your question be answered by the FAQ B7-03 or B7-04? The link to the faq is at the bottom on the page.

HEY, NOW ! ! !

We don't hate "lame" newbie questions!!

We **DO**, however, have a hard time assisting ANYONE who doesn't put some due-diligence into their own problem before expecting someone else to fix it for them.

This mainly consists of Reading the FAQs, Daniel's Review, and both the Pronto & ProntoEdit Manuals. As well as using the excellent search function incorporated into this Forum. Not to mention the Search Function built into Adobe Acrobat - *that* one's saved me MUCH time looking up answers for myself *and* newbies & pros alike who have posted questions.

And I do believe, as JeffW says, your problem (at least as far as we can tell from your question) is answered in the FAQs.

If you still can't get it to work, then by all means, post any question you wish, I for one, don't think *any* question is lame (or any questioner).


MIKE

i had read the FAQs, the manuals for all devices, and did a search on this forum...however, after doing what the FAQs suggested it still did not work. as a result, my LAST DITCH EFFORT was to post a question hoping somebody with the same component could perhaps impart some of their own experience and knowledge on this topic.

I always create a panel with all of the numbers for my component first (i.e. create buttons for each number 0-9). Then create the macro in the button you want by aliasing each of the numbers from your number panel. Channel 9440 would be alias-9 alias-4 alias-4 alias-0. Now since the pronto for some components sends the numbers out too quickly you can put pauses in between alias-9 pause .1 alias-9 pause .1 etc. You can adjust the pause length until you reliably get the component to recongnize each digit

Chris L. you are both a scholar and a gentleman! i commend you sir. you are a stand-up kinda guy.
you didn't infer that i was too lazy or not intelligent enough to find the answer myself, all you did was contribute your thoughts on my problem. clear and to the point. thank you so very very much for your time, your consideration, and your truly helpful comments.
and to those whose time i have wasted, i appologize. when a man needs help with his fancy new toy rationality does not always present itself with the speed one would like...

I have found that whenever I have two digits in a row that are the same, I need to put in a short delay before the second of the two is sent. So, I would have programmed it as 9-4-delay-4-0.

that's what i tried, but i failed to try variations on the delay such as 0.2 or 0.3...that's what i have to do
thanks to all!

This is the stage that I'm at right now. I have most of the unselected /selected icons done for my channels and I'm now at the point where I have to input the numbers with the delay.

Creating the negative option took a while. I downloaded the CCF file of Canadian station logos from the file section and using Paint Shop pro started creating the icons. Martin was good enough to get me pointed in the correct direction on this.

Numbering each logo is the repetitive boring part that I hate. At least I'll have a backup of all the work.

People around here are helpful. Hell I blew right past the answer to my question on How to merge CCF of the FAQ the other day. Some one around here kindly pointed me to the correct FAQ.

Great ! Now I'm typing in 3 letter acronyms. Dam you Pronto!!

In the files section of this website download Andrea Whitlocks Dish Network Echostar 5000 DSS Receiver CCF file.

Hmmmmm . . .
Frank, just *who* might that "kindly" pointer have been?

[Link: remotecentral.com]



tramahound;

It was not my intention to 'tramautize' you in any way, nor to denigrate your abilities to solve your own problems. But in your pre-preface (to me anyway) it sounded like you were just jumping right in and asking as your first line of attack. Had you stated that you had (as a newbie) already attempted finding your own answers, my response probably would have been much different in tone. However, I make no apologies here. There are all too many who post here who *do* take that approach - Ask 1st, search later.

To paraphrase George Bernard Shaw in the Preface to Pygmalion: I "do not suffer fools gladly".
Please don't take offense at that, I am not calling you a fool and neither did I call *you* lazy. If you note in very few of my replies do I give an actual link, I opt instead to "point in the right direction". I firmly believe in the saying; " If you give a man a fish, he eats for one day. If you teach him how to fish, he eats forever".

Now that that's over (not that I think for one minute that it's the last I'll hear of it!), in the future, I will be more than happy to point you in the right direction. Knowing, as I do now, that you *do* do some 'homework' before you ask for help.

No offense at all intended.

PAX


MIKE

Thanks, mike, for the explanation of your statements. i'm in no way a newbie to this site, but instead, i'm a newbie to the actual use of the pronto. i've been coming here ever since i first began researching the pronto and its workings prior to deciding to purchase it. i've spent the last few months reading others questions and the various responses to those questions in the hopes that i would not ask the typical newbie questions. i understand the frustration that oldbies(?) feel after reading the same damned question time and time again, but, unfortunately newbies are often put down for trying to become enlightened (not that this is what you did, just what i've seen throughout my time here and other forums like it). it turns into a lesson of "don't ask simple questions that *you* happen to not quite understand because you'll be told that it's clearly covered elsewhere in a language you may not be all too clear with." with my question, i had read how to learn ir commands for multi-digit channel numbers multiple times, but something with it didn't click. however, when another person who has been in your shoes and knows from experience chimes in with the solution using normal, easy to understand, conversational language the answer quickly comes into focus. i mean just the other day i saw a post asking why their pronto wouldn't learn ir commands from another remote, and somebody responded that they should remember to point the teaching remote at the bottom of the pronto, not the top! and in response the guy who asked the question said, "OH YEAH." just like in school, no matter how many times you read something, sometimes you won't retain one small fragment of important information, and it isn't until somebody gives you a friendly reminder that your see the light.
anyway, what i'm trying to say is, let's play nice. you know lots, i know a little, i wanna know lots! i appreciate any and all help that can be sent in my direction be it directions to the answer, or the answer itself. i'll take what i can get.
thanks