I am trying to make a button which will do a set of steps on my Sony TV.

My remote has been learned completely clean, but when I send an 'UP' command, the TV goes UP twice!

Its like the command that the Pronto sends is longer than the orignal.

I stress that the command is clean and it only does this when I make a macro (String of commands). If I press the 'UP' button in normal conditions, it works fine.

Any ideas how I can get around this.

Have you tried putting a delay before and after the command?

Yep.. Really ong delays before and after.. Just for testing.

I have talked about this with my colleagues in work and it seems that this problem come about because the TV supports long presses.. i.e. you can press and hold a button and the menu commands repeat.

When you are using the Pronto in 'manual' mode, it is fine as it acts just like the normal remote.. i.e you press a button, it sends a command.. Keep it pressed, it keeps transmitting, let it go and its stops.

YOU have control as to how long you send a command for.

But in Macro mode, there is no control as to how long you send a command.

It seems that in this case, the pronto sends 1 or more itterations of the same command.

If like most kit, the TV ignored the extra press, it wouldn't matter, but because its supports this, the TV does it twice...

Is there any way to make a command in a macro shorter?

I would look at the code to make sure it was learnt correctly.

Code is fine... Completely clean.. I only know this because its small and I learned it many times and checked the code and they are all the same.

It could have learned the same bad code every time, but I doubt it.

I am having the same problem with my Sony TV. The "1" button works fine on its own but not in a macro, even with delay's on either side of it (I haven't checked all the other numbers yet but I know of several). The weird thing is it works fine on the DSS whether or not it is in a macro. I though I was just going nuts or something. Hey Jon, out of curiousity, what madel is your TV? Mine's a KV-32XBR100. For those of you non-believers here is the code it is supposedely sending.

0000 0067 0000 000d 0060 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0452

Did another test last night.

Just made a macro like this:-

-
Delay 2s
UP
Delay 2s
-

I went into a 'menu' and used the key pad to go up and down.

When I tapped UP, it would go up once.. If I pressed UP (i.e a sort of full press), it still went up once..

But, if I pressed it and held it for about 3/4 of a second, it would start repeating.. This is normal and does it on the original remote too.

But, if I pressed my new Macro.. The menu would go UP twice.

It seems that code that the pronto sends under a Macro, is longer than a normal quick press.

Looks like I will have to give up!

Jon have you tried some of the CCFs on this site, there are many for sony TVs, and sony (at least on TVs)tends to use the same IR sequence.

But I don't think that another CCF will help.

This is fundimentally the way that Macro works.. It sends a code which is long enough to make the feature repeat on the TV.

I was hoping that there was a way to make a code sequence shorter.. Perhaps if I played with the code.. Deleted some bits of it.. I could make it work..

Can you try change 0000 000d to 000d 0000, I don't know how the Pronto will handel this, but it might work. those two parts are first part and repeate, by changing those two it might not repeate

OK.. I will try... Thanks

Jon

Another thought, and maybe I'll try it when I get home tonight, what about increasing the lead out bit to a really large number so it essentially doubles the length of the signal but sends it as a "0" bit. In other words change the last bit to 0700 or 0800.

Mark I don't think that will work, (I think it will make it worst), most machines will wait before repeating (press a key on your keyboard, like hhhhhhhh, you will notice that the time between the first and the second h appear was longer then any other consecutive hs (this is to make sure that it is not a mistake - you are too slow) the same happens with IR, is the button pressed 2 short times or is it only one long one (that is why some devices need longer delays between keys). Since the first part and the repeat part is the same (0000 in first part) it might think of it as several key presses (the pronto sends out the repeat a few times in a macro to make sure the device understands).

Mark -- I'm using the exact same "1" code in my channel macros for a KV-32XBR250 on a TS-1000 and TSU2000, and they work perfectly...

Daniel, I never actually use the TV tuner, but on the XBR100 the only way to get it to do an anamorphic squeeze is in the service menu, hence I'm trying to set up a macro to enter the service menu, scroll up to VSIZ and change the value from 38 to 0, turn the set back off and then on again. Scroll up in service mode is "1". If I run through the steps manually it works fine , but every time I use a macro each "1" jumps two steps even if I put a 1 second pause between them. Unfortunately I need three steps to get to VSIZ. Any suggestions?