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dmx3000 & sony DVP-CX777ES
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Post 1 made on Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 13:40
jhunt
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trying to get the correct codes to use for before and after to get direct disk acess. I have tried
display, right>, {dmx enters #'s}, enter and display. the last display clears what is onscreen.

THis does not work for the 3 pssoble cases where
1) just starting up and no movie playing
2) move in progress
3) during part of start up where disk feature not allowed.

any suggestions for how best to program to get the movie software to work on the mx 3000?

thanks
Post 2 made on Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 09:51
Sam1Cohen
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Here is what I have done on my 2 sony changers (not the same model but should work as well)

Before
1. Stop
2. 10 sec delay
3. Stop
4. 10 sec delay
5. list

After
1. Enter
2. 3 sec delay
3. Enter
4. 3 sec delay
5. jump to control page after a little loading page

This has always worked no matter what situation, the delays between the stops allow it to load the needed page etc. Good luck

Sam
Post 3 made on Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 10:04
cgroth
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Sam, whar do you mean by "5. list"?

Are you saying you have been able to overcome the auto play feature using this method?

I see that it would work in jhubt's situation 2), but in 1) and 3)?
OP | Post 4 made on Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 10:15
jhunt
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I have found that there are 2 ways to get the play in a state to enter a disk/slot#.
1) display - which give info about the current disk playing an dcurrent setup into
2) folder - this is part of the filing system with the 777 which lists titles and a low res picture. I think the largerthe library, the longer the delay before you can get this option to accept entering a new disk #.

have i missed any?

also by pressing stop twice, you loose the position that the current movie was playing.(and no chance to resume play.
Post 5 made on Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 12:17
cargen
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I use DMX-3000 (was one of Bracken's Beta testers) with a Sony DVP-CX777ES. My Macros are:

BEFORE Macro:

1. Display
2. 3.0 sec. Delay
3. Right

Between Each Number = Delay
.10 sec

AFTER Macro:

1. .10 sec. Delay
2. Enter/Select
3. .10 sec. Deplay
4. Display
5. Jump to DMX/Startup
6. 10.0 sec Delay
7. Display
8. DVD Changer page

Bracken also uses a DVP-CX777ES. I recall that he had slightly different delay times, which points out some unit to unit variance between DVP-CX777ES units. So you have to "season to taste" with delay times.

The above works when the Changer is in the process of playing a DVD. It does not work if ther DVD is in Pause or Stop. It is a well-documented flaw discussed on the agoraquest.com Sony forums and AVS.com that even though the Sony manual says that AutoPlay can be toggled off, it CAN'T be. This Sony screw-up reportedly continues in the just releaseed Sonny DVP-CX995V.

Chris
OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 12:27
jhunt
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thanks for the reply,
1) is the delay between numbers adjusted by changing the 'delay' on the numeric / before/after screen?
2) how do you overcome the failure of the programing to work during stop/pause?
thanks
john
Post 7 made on Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 14:41
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Answeres to jhunt's questions ...

1) is the delay between numbers adjusted by changing
the 'delay' on the numeric / before/after screen?

Yes.

2) how do you overcome the failure of the programing
to work during stop/pause?

It is not a "failure" of DMX-3000 programming or my programming. It has to do with the Sony's "failure" to enable AutoStop not to work as it is supposed to according to their own manual.

I simply press Play to get a DVD to start playing. Also, the DMX-3000 macros will not work until a DVD is actually playing. In other words, they will not work if started during the few seconds that the DVD Changer mechanism is spinning between slots, etc.

If Sony's Autostop did actually work as its manual describes (but it doesn't, as well documented in other web forums referred to in my post above), then the BEFORE macro might be adjusted with a different sequence. In other words, you can't have two different sets of BEFORE at least the way Bracken set it up. But, now thinking about it I suppose a separate BEFORE button could be added and set up for a STOP condition and another one for a PAUSE condition with conditional buttons to each, but that was more complication than I personally wanted. The MX-3000 is capable of any sequence just as if you were using any device's original remote.

Bracken's DMX-3000 does most, and an amazing amount, of the "heavy lifting", but due to the fact that there are many different DVD changer brands and models out there, he couldn't possibly fine tune the programming for the idiosyncrasies of a specific changer, such as the subject Sony DVP-CX777ES.

I'd hack around with this to provide you an exact alternate sequence for varous condition states, but I'm on a road trip.

Chris
OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 23:49
jhunt
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if the dmx movie select only works consistentlky during the play mode, then perhaps the solution is to have the play hit play as soon as it turns on. I have been sending stop commands when selecting to use the player.

I still have an issue with movies that have certain premovie segments which cause the player to display 'action not allowed...' during this part the initial non duplication screens. any suggestions? I did add a 'please wait while the dvd player resets' screen which comes on after selecting to watch the dvd player and it sends 2 stop commands with a 10 sec pause.... then goes into the movie screen. am tinkering around with it.
Post 9 made on Thursday August 25, 2005 at 09:40
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cgroth:
Here is what my macro does

the first stop will stop the DVD no matter what is going on, the 2nd one will make sure it is a "full" stop. Then I use the "list" feature to bring up the complete list on screen as long as I give enough delay the complete list comes up then you can just enter the slot number. Now something that goes along with this is my power on macro turns on the DVD player so whenever I am ready to watch a movie I can just let the macro work. I have been using this macro for quite a while and I have never had any problems no matter where the DVD is when I run the macro.

Sam
OP | Post 10 made on Thursday August 25, 2005 at 09:52
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While my library is not yet full, how is your delay to allow for the library list to load?

Last night I actually changed to using plays instead of stops along with the display feature... even on power up. I did not have any hangups other than the first or 2nd display screen remaining on. will try to tweak again.
Post 11 made on Thursday August 25, 2005 at 10:04
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I use a 10sec delay, I sometime don't need that long but this way I am covered (sometimes it takes longer to load the list depending on the number of thumnails there). I don't mind the little extra wait because it works perfect for me.
Post 12 made on Thursday August 25, 2005 at 10:18
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Sam,

I guess the list you guys are talking about is 777 specific, my 860 doesn't have this function (I think?).

I also hope the strange "stop bug) discussed with Cargen above is also 777 specific, as I have just ordered a 985, and I would like this to work with the same reliable macro as my 860.
Post 13 made on Thursday August 25, 2005 at 16:23
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The "list" function is the button that brings the on screen list of movies up (the disk explorer) once that list is up (after the 10sec delay) you can then enter directly the slot number you want and it works great for me everytime.

Sam
OP | Post 14 made on Thursday August 25, 2005 at 22:24
jhunt
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by the way, i just gotmy code (having bt the software) and i get an error 'more than 1 mx3000 found. make sure you are running it on a base file.'

well the base file i had when i first ran it has changed significantly, and i was trying to run it on the last saved version. to show all my moviesa nd not limited to 24. any idea's??
Post 15 made on Friday August 26, 2005 at 09:44
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Jhunt, you need to make sure that the base file you are using does not have any of the detail pages from the DMX software, what I have done when this has happened in take my file (with the movie listing) then delete all but the base DMX items (the ones that you imported at the start) then save that and use it. That should help, if not there is a contact email on Bracken's site and he can help from there.

Sam
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