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Topic: | No irclone support for URC series This thread has 28 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 29. |
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Post 16 made on Tuesday August 17, 2004 at 03:42 |
GregoriusM RC Consultant |
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Has anyone with a URC-200 or 300 tried IRClone with those remotes and see if ANY part of it works?
There may not need to be hundreds of more hours spent on IRClone for the URC remotes.
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Post 17 made on Tuesday August 17, 2004 at 11:08 |
aztriker Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2002 117 |
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To mike@irclone,
I echo Dundas words above. I do have a RS remote to put in the discretes, which works great but would not be without the IRClone. The ease of changing things and to me the most important feature, the backup capability, are worth every cent the IRClone cost me.
Thanks, Mike.......
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Post 18 made on Tuesday August 17, 2004 at 11:26 |
MikeSRC Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2001 5,958 |
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On 08/17/04 07:42 ET, GregoriusM said...
Has anyone with a URC-200 or 300 tried IRClone with those remotes and see if ANY part of it works? Hi G, I've tried it with a URC-200 a few times and got nothing. I've tried both uploading and downloading, as well as with no programming and some programming. Unfortunately, it's apparently a different memory setup.
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Post 19 made on Tuesday August 17, 2004 at 14:10 |
GregoriusM RC Consultant |
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On 08/17/04 15:26 ET, MikeSRC said...
Hi G,
I've tried it with a URC-200 a few times and got nothing. I've tried both uploading and downloading, as well as with no programming and some programming. Unfortunately, it's apparently a different memory setup. Hmmmmmmmm.... too bad.
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Post 20 made on Tuesday August 17, 2004 at 15:02 |
Mike C Founding Member |
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Doesn't mean it won't work with some changes Greg. Maybe I'll have to get a 200 and see what I can see. Where's the best place to buy one?
Mike
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Post 21 made on Wednesday August 18, 2004 at 02:18 |
GregoriusM RC Consultant |
Joined: Posts: | December 1999 9,807 |
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Mike C:
Check your email.
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Post 22 made on Friday August 20, 2004 at 17:33 |
On 08/17/04 03:00 ET, Bplayer said...
I am also disappointed that there will be no irclone support. I have recently purchased the URC-200 and hoped that irclone coming which would have been a bonus. Although I have not used an MX-500/600, the coding in irclone should not be too different for the URC. I suppose 3 versions would be required, i.e. URC-100/200/300 which complicates the situation.
The alternative to irclone is a less elegant solution and involves using an OFA or RS to “learn” those special or discrete codes not found on the original equipments’ remote control. A more involved process involves use of JP1.
Here is an example of where it would help me. I have a Sony TV and Receiver and a remote controls for both. The TV remote control has a single on/off button, no discrete. The Receiver remote control knows the discrete code off code for the TV, and uses it as part of an internal macro to turn everything off. The sequence is long and cannot be learned by the URC-200. I need to program this code into a remote and then learn it to my URC-200. This is going to get worse when I get my Denon 2805 and Samsung HLP.
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Post 23 made on Friday August 20, 2004 at 17:35 |
On 08/17/04 03:00 ET, Bplayer said...
I am also disappointed that there will be no irclone support. I have recently purchased the URC-200 and hoped that irclone coming which would have been a bonus. Although I have not used an MX-500/600, the coding in irclone should not be too different for the URC. I suppose 3 versions would be required, i.e. URC-100/200/300 which complicates the situation.
The alternative to irclone is a less elegant solution and involves using an OFA or RS to “learn” those special or discrete codes not found on the original equipments’ remote control. A more involved process involves use of JP1.
Here is an example of where it would help me. I have a Sony TV and Receiver and a remote controls for both. The TV remote control has a single on/off button, no discrete. The Receiver remote control knows the discrete code off code for the TV, and uses it as part of an internal macro to turn everything off. The sequence is long and cannot be learned by the URC-200. I need to program this code into a remote and then learn it to my URC-200. This is going to get worse when I get my Denon 2805 and Samsung HLP. I'm in the same boat. I have a URC-200 and a few devices that have discrete codes that are unavailable on the remotes that came with them (i.e. my Sony VPL-HS10 projector). One idea I had was to get a pronto emulator for my Pocket PC, and download the ccfs to that, then learn 'em onto the URC-200. A solution like IR-Clone would be more elegant, but that might be my best bet.
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Post 24 made on Monday September 13, 2004 at 21:04 |
sparkss Lurking Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2004 5 |
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Since Mike and Dave (from IrClone) are concerned about return on investment for work performed to make IrClone work with the URC line, maybe we should start a poll as to who would buy the new program/programmer ?
I myself would galdly pay for the ability to program my URC-200, even if only to back it up and move the buttons configurations around (although discrete code support would definitely be a plus).
I am not familiar with this forum, so perhaps someone less n00b than me can set up a more formal/official poll ?
Just my thoughts on the topic :)
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Post 25 made on Tuesday November 2, 2004 at 20:27 |
danieljanderson Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | November 2004 219 |
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On 09/14/04 01:04 ET, sparkss said...
Since Mike and Dave (from IrClone) are concerned about return on investment for work performed to make IrClone work with the URC line, maybe we should start a poll as to who would buy the new program/programmer ?
I myself would galdly pay for the ability to program my URC-200, even if only to back it up and move the buttons configurations around (although discrete code support would definitely be a plus).
I am not familiar with this forum, so perhaps someone less n00b than me can set up a more formal/official poll ?
Just my thoughts on the topic :) I would pay. The Pronto has it's place in many systems, but a remote like the Osiris is a much better choice for secondary areas like bedrooms. I also like it's form much better than the Omega / 500/600/700 series. To be able to program the Osiris from a PC would place it very high in my list of recomended remote controls.
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Post 26 made on Wednesday November 3, 2004 at 05:29 |
BobL Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | March 2002 1,352 |
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I would love to see the IR Clone for the Omega /Osiris series. Our company has 2 IR clones right now for MX-500/600s. These remotes offer a nice price point if they have some type of PC programmability. Otherwise we will drop these remotes from our sevices. Not worth the time to do manually, especially if something changes in the customer's system or cable rearranges their channels again. Just my .02
Bob
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Post 27 made on Tuesday November 9, 2004 at 21:59 |
jowens Lurking Member |
Joined: Posts: | November 2004 1 |
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I've got a couple pieces of Sony ES line (DA 777 for one) that I can't get any of the table codes that came w/ my URC-200 to work correct. Powers on/off but no other functions work w/ some of the codes.
Are there other codes I can use. I tried "learning" the remote, but that isn't working effectively either.
Any suggestions?
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Post 28 made on Wednesday February 15, 2006 at 14:33 |
I know this is likely a long dead subject, but has any way of interfacing the URC line with a PC been developed?
I'm a long-time MX-700 user and love the PC programability. I recently purchased a URC-200 as a secondary remote and would love to be able to program it with a PC as well.
At a minimum, the ability to backup and restore a configuration, even without PC-based editing, would be very reassuring.
If not, I may have to buy a second URC-200 just to backup the first, but I'd rather not :)
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Post 29 made on Wednesday February 15, 2006 at 18:34 |
Control Remotes Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | August 2003 3,434 |
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I don't think the URC line is "protected" as much as it's just distributed differently. The R5 and R7 seem to simply be more successful, due to their price points. If you look at the price points of the URC line, they are much higher. I also think the margins were lower for the URC products. When you try to put a $149 remote next to the $29 remotes in big box stores with low margins and mainstream customer segment - that's a tall order. As far as creating PC programmable remotes, it was great for the MX-500, but now the MX-700/800/850 are a good bit less than before ($500 for an MX-700 back then, now $249). Anyone can just get one of those with native programming capabilities for $249. If you have a $149 URC remote and then need to spend $100 to make it PC programmable, that just doesn't make sense. I can understand why they don't want to put the resources into developing a new version of IRClone. I am very happy for the success they had, but I can understand their current position. There's just more risk to develop a new version. Thank you, Damon DG = = = = = http://www.ProRemotes.com - Authorized Dealer & Remote Programming Services
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