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MX-3000 and Pronto browser
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Post 1 made on Wednesday June 2, 2004 at 20:37
TowJumper
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Well I have my mx-3000 just about ready for the wife and kids to test but I cannot seem to get the discrete codes for my three dish network receivers to work correctly.

I inserted the hex codes from this site into a file with prontoedit v4. Save the ccf.

However, when I use the universal browser to copy the codes to my mx-3000 setup, the codes do not work properly at all. They show up mind you, but they do not work.

Other discrete codes I grabbed using this method (Sony CD, Yama Receiver etc) work fine.

I even downloaded a few files at various receiver codes to try and none of them work either.

Any suggestions?

TIA

Miguel
Post 2 made on Wednesday June 2, 2004 at 20:42
GregoriusM
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Do you have the latest version of MX-3000 Editor?
When ignorance is bliss, ‘tis folly to be wise.
OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday June 2, 2004 at 20:56
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Thanks for the prompt response!

It is the latest version *I THINK*.

In any event, ran the update and it said I was already updated.

editor v. 1.10.109
emulator v. 1.0.4.40514
IRDB v. 160
manager v. 1.0.4.40214

Miguel
Post 4 made on Thursday June 3, 2004 at 13:04
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Miguel,

Do the discrete codes that you're downloading utilize the same remote address as your Dish Network receivers? Does each of the three Dish Network receivers utilize a different remote address so they don't conflict with each other? If so, you would need to download three different sets of discrete codes.

I also have three different Dish Network receivers with remote addresses set to 1, 2 and 3. I have three different sets of discrete codes, downloaded from this site, pasted into my Marantz RC9200. I may be getting a MX-3000 so if there's a problem with it utilizing Dish Network discrete codes I'd sure like to know about it.

Bob
OP | Post 5 made on Thursday June 3, 2004 at 15:05
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Bob:

The MX-3000 is very very nice in my opinion, you would probably enjoy it like I am but for this problem.

Yes the remote codes are the set correctly. I have a the Dish 811, 721 and 501 receivers. The codes currently are set to 1, 2 and 5 respectively.

In testing I made a page with pronto edit with the hex values from this site (thanks RC btw) for EACH dish address from 1 to 9 with discrete on and off, again for each.

I then made a page for the MX-3000, and made the 9 sets of on off buttons and dropped in the 'learned data' from the universal browser.

My plan was to upload this page here for future MX-3000 users. I tried all of these on/off codes on all three receivers and even changed the codes on the recievers themselves to see if I could get them to work - they did not.

Not sure what the problem is, or what I am doing wrong but I can not get the discretes working on the Dish receiver.

Looking for suggestions. If someone has this remote with a dish receiver I will be happy to email you the aforementioned page with discretes to try out.

My email is ma_garciajrATSYMBOLhotmail.com.

Bummer.

Miguel

On 06/03/04 13:04, bobli said...
Miguel,

Do the discrete codes that you're downloading
utilize the same remote address as your Dish Network
receivers? Does each of the three Dish Network
receivers utilize a different remote address so
they don't conflict with each other? If so, you
would need to download three different sets of
discrete codes.

I also have three different Dish Network receivers
with remote addresses set to 1, 2 and 3. I have
three different sets of discrete codes, downloaded
from this site, pasted into my Marantz RC9200.
I may be getting a MX-3000 so if there's a problem
with it utilizing Dish Network discrete codes
I'd sure like to know about it.

Bob
Post 6 made on Thursday June 3, 2004 at 18:25
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Miguel,

I've sent you a ccf file with only discrete power code buttons in it. The 921 uses address 1, the 721 uses address 2 and the 811 uses address 3. You might want to try importing these into your MX-3000 file as I know they work correctly when loaded into my Marantz RC9200. Maybe something went wrong when pasting the hex codes into ProntoEdit? It might be worth a try to see if this solves the problem.

BTW-how do you feel about the size of the MX-3000? It's a little bigger than my RC9200 and I'm a little concerned that it might seem a little bulky for a remote control. Other than the size factor it seems like a nice upgrade in a lot of small ways (active matrix vs. passive matrix, USB vs. serial, 16-bit color vs. 8-bit color, 240x320 pixels vs. 240x270 pixels editable screen area, etc.).

Bob
OP | Post 7 made on Thursday June 3, 2004 at 23:46
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Bob:

Thanks for the file. Just tried it and did not work on any of the receivers. Bah.

I called HTM (Eric) and left a message but no response so far.

In terms of the form factor of the 3000 - to me its just right. My local dealer did not like the MX series remote because of the lack of "flair" (his words) - prior to the 3000.

I asked him to order me the 3000 and I just about had to pry it out of his custom programmer's hands. They LOVED the looks and size of it compared to the Sony Nuvis (whatever thier latest is with the feedback screen - which he tried to sell me first) and the Prontos. He is trying to get his hands on more and thanked me for turning him on to it. I would have ordered from the sponsors here if he did not get me one - Surfremote and Bluedo both seem excellent.

Not familiar with you Marantz but the 3000 has a great size, feel, and looks. Hard to describe really - except that the thin form-factor really has to be seen to be appreciated. As a reference, the thickest part of the remote appears to be smaller than the thickest part of the 811 remote, and the 811 remote is longer than the 3000 is wide. From the pictures I did not expect this.

In particular the 'wings' of the 3000 are quite thin and have nice grips built-in on the opposite sides. Again, these wings are more thin than even the most thin part of the 811 remote (the middle).

My accountant wife(meaning no new-fangled devices get approval around here) is ready for me to finish the setup so she can claim the remote.

Nothing I have ever brought home except the Dish PVR has ever met with such approval.

If you want some pics I can take some for you. Send me an email.

Hopefully I am doing something wrong on these codes because these are critical to me.

Thanks again for the ccf you sent.

Miguel
Post 8 made on Friday June 4, 2004 at 13:23
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Miguel,

Can you possibly get access to a Pronto style remote (any Pronto or one of the similar Marantz's), possibly through your dealer? If so, you might want to try loading the ccf file you created (or the one I sent you) into it and then trying to teach the discrete codes directly to the MX-3000. This would eliminate the use of the universal browser for importing codes from the ccf file and would test the ability of the MX-3000 to simply learn a code that is clearly working directly from another remote.

I thought of using the test above because I've struggled with the universal browser on my computer. I don't have the MX-3000 (at least not yet) but I did install the software and the universal browser is giving me a problem (I can't open my ccf file in it although I can open some that I've downloaded). I haven't figured out why this is yet, although it could be because I created my ccf file with Touch Screen Setup (Marantz's version) rather than ProntoEdit.

Hope you can find an answer as this problem would be a deal breaker for me as far as getting the remote. I just got all of my equipment (through a recent software upgrade to Dish Network's 721 receiver and the purchase of a new Pioneer Elite receiver) to accept discrete power codes. This has made the macros I utilize work perfectly and has greatly enhanced the automation of my home theater system.

Bob
OP | Post 9 made on Friday June 4, 2004 at 18:31
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Bob:

Thanks for trying the file I sent you. Looks like the dishnetwork discrete codes from this site work fine.

I sent the file to eric at HTM and he is going to get his folks to look at them.

Wish there was a dishnetwork reader here with a 3000 to try them out also.

I am trying to get a pronto to try them out on my receiver but I cannot imagine all three of my units would be different from yours.

Miguel
Post 10 made on Saturday June 5, 2004 at 13:09
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Miguel,

Do you mean a Pronto 3000? If so, that remote doesn't use the ccf file format. The ccf file format is now outdated and is used by the older Pronto 2000 & 6000 models as well as the older Marantz RC5200 & RC9200 models.I believe the newer Pronto models 3000 & 7000 use the newer pcf file format as does the newer Marantz model RC5400. Hopefully, if you can get your hands on any of these models, you can paste in the hex code for the discretes and then try to teach them to the MX-3000.

Bob


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