Could anyone point out a good MXF file as an example of the two-stage button (push versus hold) macros everyone keeps talking about.

TIA

Push and Hold macros are pretty useful and can be programmed from within the "Macro & Favorite" window. Here's a simplistic version of what my DVD button (from MAIN) looks like:

1 [DELAY 1.0]
2 POWER ON.........DVD
3 [GOTO PAGE].....DVD - P1

The magic of press and hold is in the first DELAY command. Simply PRESSING the button goes to the DVD device and ignores the macro. HOLDING the button for 1 second causes it to run the macro. Note that the last command is [GOTO PAGE], which tells it to GO to the DVD - P1 menu. Without this, you'd have to switch to that page manually.

Finally, the "small clock" icon (Insert Time Delay) is what adds the [DELAY xx] command. And, "arrow pointing at box" icon sets the [GOTO PAGE] command.

This isn't an actual file but I hope it helps!


This message was edited by Tisme on 10/21/03 11:55.

One feature that doesn't get talked about much is the ability for a device button on the mx-700 to have a single press macro (without holding), and then you can also hold the "main" button and the device button to go to the device to manually switch.

Personally I prefer to use this instead of assigning dual functions to keys. All my macros end on the respective device anyway, so I rarely need to switch devices manually. YMMV

Thanks. I actually understand the concept very well. I am just looking for a good example of execution.

I see how using the one second delay to start the 'hold' macro allows it to execute only on hold. And I assume you could put a lot more stuff in this macro such as changing video input on the monitor and audio input on the receiver, etc. to setup system for DVD playback.

The part I am not too clear on is where the 'quick press' functionality is defined. How does it know what to do if the button is pressed and not held? Can you attach multiple macros to the same button?

Anyway, thanks for the help.

If you want the button to send a single command with a single push of that button, learn the command to the button. Then, record your push-and-hold macro on that button and select "LEARN & MACRO" from the "Device" list on the "Edit and Label Buttons" panel. You can also add a macro to a button that has a preprogrammed code as well, you just won't need to do the final step (selecting "Learn & Macro") mentioned above.

Mike
www.SurfRemote.com

In my example, the DVD button (on the MAIN menu) is a device (my DVD player). By default, pressing a device button goes to the first page of that device. So, that's what defines the 'quick press' functionality. Adding a macro is what does additional things.

(or do I still not understand the question...?)

Thanks guys. It makes more sense now. I'll play with it some.

Does the push-and-hold work with the M1-M3 buttons on the MX-500?

I've stopped using these, as they were causing more confusion than they were worth to the rest of the household!

There is no "push-and-hold" ability on the M1-M3 buttons on the MX-500.

Shame - but something else to add to my gradual campaign to justify an MX-700 (some months to go yet as I still haven't sold the Mosaic I bought earlier this year)!

Thanks for the reply.

Mike:

What would be the advantage of having and/or an example of a LEARN & MACRO scenario?

I haven't quite yet gotten the concept.

One example might be the situation I mentioned in the other thread where you might have a device with learned On/Off commands for that device on those buttons, but want to put push-and-hold system On/Off on the same buttons.

Can you program a button to have a shortcut to another button that has a macro, then in the original button, program a push and hold macro? In other words, can one button in effect have two macros, one that is quick press, and another that is long press?

I have a couple of components that sometimes are video sources, and sometimes are only audio sources (DVD, and music channels from the sat receiver). What I'd like to do is to have DVD button that turns on the receiver, DVD player, changes the audio source to DVD, etc., and of course switches to the DVD device page. But if I continue to hold the button down, another macro runs that turns on the TV, sets it to the right video input, and the right zoom setting. So, quick press for playing audio from the DVD player, click and hold to also watch the video.

Will it do this?

Does the two-stage push and hold macro feature on the MX-700 also apply to the power button(s)??? I'd really like to program my main power button as a tap to turn on TV, push and hold to turn on TV and preamp, etc.

Usage model is that sometimes I just want to turn on the TV and watch - and other times I want "everything" to turn on. I know I can put the "everything on" macro somewhere else, but it would be very intuitive to have it as a long hold on the main power button.

Thanks,

Jeff

Yes, it does.