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cut and paste button problems?
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Post 1 made on Thursday April 3, 2003 at 16:35
fredpd
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I am trying to setup the remote section of my ipronto, and i've run into a snag. I have a button i like to use around the joystick area for things like guide, tivo, menu etc. So I copy and paste multiple buttons, and arrange them to my liking. I then download to the remote, and learn. Somehow, every button I have copied does the same function, the last one i taught. Very strange! Is it me, or is this just a bug? And once fixed, will I have to start over? I did just download the new firmware, and have the same issue still.
Post 2 made on Thursday April 3, 2003 at 17:07
eweber
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Nope, Fred it's not you. I have the same damn issue. It makes the iPronto a big paperweight. I can't use it until I can learn some devices without it overwriting the buttons I previously memorized.

If you have any ideas, I'd love it hear them. I'm now extrememly frustrated.

-EW
Post 3 made on Friday April 4, 2003 at 02:38
Daniel Tonks
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I have received the following information from Philips on this issue:


The explanation for this phenomena is as follows:

The iPronto Remote Control works in the following way. Each button in an iCF is part of a specific device. Each device has a specific brand and IR code set associated to it. And each button in the iCF is then defined by its function within that codeset.

Now, if you learn a code under the button on the iPronto, the application stores it using the same codeset and function identifiers. So, when you have copied/pasted multiple buttons in iProntoEdit, they will all have the same identifier. If you then learn one of them - the learned IR code "magically" applies to all of them.

The best workaround is to make sure that in the editor each button in a device has a unique function assigned to it - even if you plan to learn a code under the button.

A related issue, by the way, is the following: since a button is uniquely identified by its database function, you can only have one database IR code per button. So, when you are building a macro, you can only use one database code as part of the action list. Should you add another one (the Edit application allows it) you will find that the other ones in the list will always be identical to the one you just added. Therefore, to build a macro with multiple different IR codes, you will have to use links to other buttons that have learned or IR database codes under them.

These are all architectural issues of the iPronto that we are working on making better. For now, however, this is how it works.
OP | Post 4 made on Friday April 4, 2003 at 20:33
fredpd
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Fine, I understand how it works, but I still have a question. So far I've learned about 30 or so buttons that have this issue. Can I assign the buttons different functions now that I have learned on them? Or do I have to delete every one and start over? I already know the answer, but i still have hope!
Post 5 made on Tuesday April 8, 2003 at 11:38
GeorgeForester
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I think you can have hope. I had the same problem with a few buttons I copy/pasted and then learned. I found this fix: upload it to the editor. add a new IR code after the learned code and set the function different with every button. then delete this IR code. download and ... it works! seems iProntoEdit remembers the function after you erase the code...
Post 6 made on Tuesday July 8, 2003 at 12:35
Jerod
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What happens if I have 52 buttons on my layout and there are only 42 possible functions to choose from? The buttons begin to act like one another again.
Post 7 made on Friday July 11, 2003 at 12:08
GeorgeForester
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Split it up in two or more hidden devices with different device settings and make links to those from the original page.


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