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Post 1 made on Sunday March 7, 2004 at 22:43
1SalesPro
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The features, appearance, and price say BUY IT!

This forum has said DON"T ! It's a paperweight, I returned it, reset, reset, crash, config probs etc.

BUT...most of these statements are older, have there been ample updates to waarant a whole new opinion? Is it a rock solid investment? All the quirks fixed or just a couple? Would the TSU7000 ProntoNG be a better buy? Or hold out for more $$$ and pick up a Crestron? The price is right on the iPronto and the feature list and customability is dead on...but does it work as advertised? So, what's the new scop? Is there a comparible better product if this one is still a crash and burn?

Thanks in advance, Luke
Post 2 made on Monday March 8, 2004 at 06:26
ChrisA
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Well my "reset reset" post is quite new, I returned the faulty unit only a couple of weeks ago, no firmware fix for that situation. Even if the unit had not been faulty I would have returned it, (but that is based on my own requirements). I have a pronto pro already and I am very happy to stick with that. I am not going to be totally negative however and say that a lot of the short-commings which have been covered at great length here could be sorted out with either firmware or software updates.
Post 3 made on Monday March 8, 2004 at 13:20
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As a replacement for a ProntoPro, not using the EPG and not using the WEB browser (So why did I buy it one might ask) it is working perfectly. No issue downloading software, Good IR coverage. No netX in use (don't need it). I use iProntoEdit and always paste in my IR codes, never learn them
Post 4 made on Monday March 8, 2004 at 18:23
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I've hadan iPronto since 8th january. It was an impulse purchase picked up when I bought my new plasma and usually I regret my impulse purchases. Not the iPronto though. Yes, it was a shed load of money (here in the UK) but it is such a cool piece of kit and mine has worked flawlessly since day one.

EPG setup and updates just fine. Browser is never any problem (though only really suitable for occasional use). NetX seems to work and was a piece of cake to setup. iProntoedit is nothing truly special but is functional, works and a doddle for seasoned Prontoedit users.

All in all one very happy iPronto user here. Only downside is I now want a nice new coffee table to go centre of the room to show it off, rather than having it sat on top of the AV cabinet :~)

If you get a good one that works (no reason why you shouldn't) I doubt very much you will regret it. If you get a bad one just take it back and nothing lost. No brainer ;)
Post 5 made on Sunday March 14, 2004 at 00:24
Kees van der Meer
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I fully agree with wattsn! It's a must have and it works great. Philips is working on further improvement through firmware/software updates.
I say: BUY IT! :-)

Kees (with Wattsn Beta testers iPronto)
Post 6 made on Sunday March 14, 2004 at 08:52
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I've had mine 4 days, it's the best remote I've owned (yet).
But every morning it loses the network connection to the router and will not reconnect until I boot up my laptop. Strange.
I hoped that 1.5.10 firmware would have fixed this.

The question I have is would a different network card (as someone tried a while ago), work and can it use any standard 802.11b card.

That said, it does work very well generally and is very easy to set up with the help of the icf's on here.

Steve
Post 7 made on Sunday March 14, 2004 at 11:22
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I have a Sohoware Netblaster II (several years old -- so by computer/Internet standards its ancient) wireless network at home. The iPronto would cause all kinds of network problems with the originally-installed Philips wifi card -- including losing its network connection three and four times a day. Finally, after trying all kinds of network settings, I gave up and installed a Sohoware Netblaster II wireless PC card. That was maybe four months ago -- and all's been fine since. Could've been the Sohoware wireless hub, could've been the Philips wifi card. I might find out soon -- am installing a new wireless network at home next week (D-Links 802.11a/b/g).

When I did have these network problems, I didn't have to boot my laptop to get the iPronto to connect to the network -- I would usually have to reboot the cable modem or the wireless hub. I also had to buy the 4-computer-connection package from my cable company to allow the laptop, the iPronto, and two other computers to connect independently to the Internet.
Post 8 made on Monday March 15, 2004 at 14:51
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thanks grs, I wonder if anyone is using a more recent card in the UK?
OP | Post 9 made on Thursday March 18, 2004 at 01:05
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So far so good. I found a seller for a good price and said his were made after the bug fixes. What else would he say...BUT, I emailed for inf on how to obtain firmware, software fixes and the such to Philips and they couldn't help me. Being unfamiliar with it's operation, how are the firmware updates obtained and applied as available? There is nothing I could find on the site..based on your statement wattsn there appears to be an automatic or manual update retrieval program integrated into the system.Also where can additional CCF's be found? Will be looking for Denon DVD-5900 & Key Digital.(there are others but these are more detailed kinda)Key Digital has customer ccf and product ccf, any idea what the difference could be and are there instructions in the manual on how to load? Thanks, Luke

This message was edited by 1SalesPro on 03/18/04 01:25.
Post 10 made on Thursday March 18, 2004 at 04:20
Kees van der Meer
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"...how are the firmware updates obtained and applied as available?...."

It's semi-automatic. I mean, you have to start up the download manually, the rest is automatic as long you have a working
wireless connection. Did you connected the iPronto already with the wireless lan? If so, goto: [Link: pronto.philips.com]

"...Also where can additional CCF's be found?..."
You need ICF files for the iPronto. You can find them here at RemoteCentral: [Link: remotecentral.com]

"...and are there instructions in the manual on how to load..."
First you download these files to your PC and open them with "iPronto edit". From there you can download your new ICF to the iPronto
through the wireless lan connection.
Also see: [Link: pronto.philips.com]

Kees
OP | Post 11 made on Thursday March 18, 2004 at 22:46
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I found those file but my dvd player, video processor etc are not there, so my solution must be to "learn". Lotsa custom discreet code buttons, should only take like 5 years to grt it perfect. I'm travelling next week, I'll either order now or when I get back.

Since updates are downloaded, is manufacturing date an issue? Also with that being the case, I don't understand why everyone doesn't buy from the least expensive distributor.Is it because of return policy & are returns a high possibility?
OP | Post 12 made on Thursday March 18, 2004 at 23:01
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How come MSRP ranges from 1300,1395,1499,1699,1799 at various sellers? Is there a difference in product based on manufacture date, options or is this just poor marketing technique by some and deceptive by others?
Post 13 made on Friday March 19, 2004 at 10:53
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No difference in product, just a difference in greed factor. It is priced to market and markets vary. Also suggest you include shipping and handling costs as that sometimes is a great leveler. Some sell low in appearance but then get you by the S&H.
Post 14 made on Thursday March 25, 2004 at 02:06
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I work for one of the companies in the UK that sell the iPronto but have been an avid Pronto fan for several years (since they first came out in the US).

I absolutely love my iPronto, if you are used to working on a normal Pronto and maybe - like me - have spent years honing your CCF file to be just what you want then to suddenly have 4 times the screen area to play with gives you the remote control equivalent of agraphobia (sp?) but it is an absolutely cracking remote. The web browser is definitely more suited to intranet use (local Home Automation web pages etc., mine is set up for my HomeVision web page, my SliMP3 web page, my firewall config page and my wireless LAN AP config page) but I have used it for getting out into the big wide world and ordering pizza from dominos, writeable DVDs from bigpockets and even checking our website was still up when someone phoned me to say it was down so it certainly can be used for browsing in general if you need to do so.

Even "change control" (my wife) likes it!

Phil
Post 15 made on Tuesday March 30, 2004 at 00:36
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I recieved my iPronto from BlueDo today and I love it. It was very easy to set up and it learned all of my IR codes from my other remotes with ease. I would recommend this remote to anyone with some money to spare.

MAX
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