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880 - Philips DVDR615 and ReplayTV 5516 Problems
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Post 1 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 15:55
Danno321s
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Hi,

Just got my 880 and have these problems:

1 - My Philips DVDR615 has to be on EXT2 to watch TV.
To set this using original remote I must make
sure it is set to the external inputs by toggling
the MONITOR button and then use the UP/DOWN buttons
to select EXT2 (if these are not already selected).
The Harmony 880 can't set my DVR615 to EXT2; it always
sets it to CAM1. I can't seem to fix this...

2 - The 880 does not turn on my ReplayTV 5516 when I select
'Watch TV'. If I go to Devices->PVR on the 880, the
first screen has ON and OFF but these don't work. I have
to page to screen 3 where there is TURN ON and TURN OFF
that work! I want 'Watch TV' to turn on my replayTV and
the 880 PVR first screen to operate the ON/OFF...

TIA,
Danno
Post 2 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 16:23
akirby
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1 - go to the device and Adjust Inputs. Make sure the list of inputs exactly matches the list on the TV. Make sure all the questions are answered correctly. If everything looks right, increase the inter-device delay for the tv.

2 - go to the ReplayTV device, Adjust Power Settings and change the commands used to be TURN ON and TURN OFF. Make sure you set it to "a different button for on and off"
OP | Post 3 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 16:31
Danno321s
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Regarding 1, I don't understand your advice. The TV is not the problem; it is the Philips dvd recorder Model DVDR615. The 880 turns on the DVDR615 and then tries to set it to EXT2 but it ends up on CAM1.

Thanks,
Danno
Post 4 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 16:50
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In "Device > More Options > Adjust inputs", make a note of the list of commands used for the various inputs. Manually send the list of commands and check which input you get. Then go back to the "Adjust inputs", and adjust accordingly. By default, the "Adjust inputs" for this device (Philips DVDR-615 DVD Recorder) is set to "I go directly to the input I want", and for the "Ext2" and "Cam1" inputs as examples, it uses the following list of commands:
Ext2: 0, 2, ChannelDown, ChannelDown
Cam1: 0, 2, ChannelDown, ChannelDown, ChannelDown, ChannelDown
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Post 5 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 16:58
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The advice is the same even if the device is different. The harmony has to know exactly how to get to each input.

If the commands to get to ext2 that jlet posted look right then increase the inter-device delay. It's probably missing a command.
OP | Post 6 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 21:09
Danno321s
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The ReplayTV problem is fixed. Thanks.

The DVDR615 remains a problem. The problem is if there is a DVD in it. If there is a DVD in it, it always goes to DVD input on POWER ON. That is if I leave a DVD in it when I turn off all devices, and then 'Watch TV', the DVDR615 will go to DVD input even though I set the DVDR615's POWER ON options to send POWER ON, STOP, MONITOR. Is there a way around this?

Also, if I go from CD Music to Watch TV, the NAD C372 Integrated Amp does not switch to Video1 though it will going from POWER OFF. Strange... Can I fix this?

Thanks,
Danno
OP | Post 7 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 21:16
Danno321s
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On July 27, 2006 at 16:50, jlet said...
In "Device > More Options > Adjust inputs", make
a note of the list of commands used for the various
inputs. Manually send the list of commands and
check which input you get. Then go back to the
"Adjust inputs", and adjust accordingly. By default,
the "Adjust inputs" for this device (Philips DVDR-615
DVD Recorder) is set to "I go directly to the
input I want", and for the "Ext2" and "Cam1" inputs
as examples, it uses the following list of commands:
Ext2: 0, 2, ChannelDown, ChannelDown
Cam1: 0, 2, ChannelDown, ChannelDown, ChannelDown,
ChannelDown

This didn't work. I can't go to the external input directly. If in internal DVD Input (what it goes into at POWER ON), I have to press MONITOR and then scroll up/down to find EXT2. Luckily, it remembers its external input setting on POWER OFF. See my other post about where I'm at now.

Thanks,
Danno
Post 8 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 22:03
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Inconsistent behavior is a killer. The only thing you can do is try getting it back to a known state and change it from there. Which it sounds like you already tried but it didn't work. Check with the Pronto users - they may have a workaround.
Post 9 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 22:28
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With the original remote, how do you choose the Antenna input?
The default method was trying to use an anchor point (a know state) by issuing the 02 channel command. An anchor point allows you to use the more desirable "pseudo" discrete method. In device mode, I see one cycling command (InputNext), and two discrete (direct) commands: "InputDvd" and "InputVCR". Either one would be a good candidate for an anchor point.
For your NAD problem, try increasing the NAD inter-device delay. It probably needs more time to ignore and recover from the other device IR commands.
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OP | Post 10 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 23:29
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On July 27, 2006 at 22:28, jlet said...
With the original remote, how do you choose the
Antenna input?
The default method was trying to use an anchor
point (a know state) by issuing the 02 channel
command. An anchor point allows you to use the
more desirable "pseudo" discrete method. In device
mode, I see one cycling command (InputNext), and
two discrete (direct) commands: "InputDvd" and
"InputVCR". Either one would be a good candidate
for an anchor point.
For your NAD problem, try increasing the NAD inter-device
delay. It probably needs more time to ignore and
recover from the other device IR commands.

I don't use the coax cable/antennae jack. I have my cable box hooked to the ReplayTV via RCA jacks which is hooked to the DVDR615 via RCA jacks on EXT2 which is hooked to the TV via RCA jacks. I don't change channels on the DVDR615; I do that on my ReplayTV which is connected to my cable box via IR. BTW I have the first generation 615 not the second generation which has a different remote and menu system. My 615 external inputs are only EXT1, EXT2, CAM1, and CAM2. I toggle from these to DVD input via the MONITOR toggle button; I don't use the TV/DVD toggle button which is for the COAX Cable input. Are you familiar with my DVDR615 1st Gen and help me further?

Thanks,
Danno
Post 11 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 23:35
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The purpose of sending the 02 channel command is just to get it to a known state (Monitor) and from there you can figure out the extra commands necessary. You don't have to actually use the tuner.
OP | Post 12 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 23:59
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On July 27, 2006 at 23:35, akirby said...
The purpose of sending the 02 channel command
is just to get it to a known state (Monitor) and
from there you can figure out the extra commands
necessary. You don't have to actually use the
tuner.

If I press 02 on the original remote, the DVDR615 1st gen is not the same as pressing the MONITOR button. Again, the MONITOR button only toggles between the external input group and the internal DVD. Using the original remote, I can not go directly to EXT2 from a power off/standby state. With no DVD in the DVDR615, I have to press MONITOR to switch to the external inputs and then scroll to EXT2 if not already selected. If there is a DVD in the DVDR615 at power on, I can not get to EXT2 without first stopping the DVD so this causes a problem compared to when there is no DVD in the DVDR615. Is this the best I can do with the DVDR615 1st Gen?

Thanks,
Danno
Post 13 made on Friday July 28, 2006 at 08:13
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Sounds like it. Maybe it's time to upgrade.
Post 14 made on Friday July 28, 2006 at 10:24
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Danno, don't give up yet. You just need to think outside the box.
1) In your 1st post, you said that it always goes to CAM1. Well at least it got out of the internal DVD. What was the "Adjust Input" method used (Flip through the inputs, Go directly to the input, Bring up menu with button cycle, or Bring up a menu with direct button), and what were the command(s) used?
2) In post 6, you said it ignored the "Monitor" command. Did you try this command in device mode?
3a) While in internal DVD, what happens if you issue an "InputNext" command (try it in device mode)?
3b) While in external input, what happens if you issue an "InputNext" command?
4) What happens if you issue an "InputNext" command after you issue a 02 command?
5) In device mode, try the "InputVcr" and "InputDvd" commands. Do they do anything?
6) I just noticed that the default "Adjust inputs" (see post 4) sends 02 followed by some amount of "ChannelDown" commands. The "ChannelDown" command does not make sense here. Maybe all you need to do is replaced them by the "InputNext" commands.
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Post 15 made on Friday July 28, 2006 at 11:33
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Sounds like you just need to issue a stop command when entering the activity, before selecting the input. I would do it in this order:

Power On (done automatically)
Stop
Select Input

I'm not sure if you can put the stop command in the input select. You might have to add all of the commands manually at activity start.
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