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James Bond - Casino Royal
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Post 16 made on Monday April 2, 2007 at 19:12
TrueDMBfan
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On April 2, 2007 at 02:22, triple B said...
This is indeed a combination of all of the above at fault.
As stated Sony has instituted a new form of protection
on their DVD's. The 777 will play the Casino Royale just
fine by itself, and even with the Escient connected.
However, it will hang when the Escient try's to query
the disc on first load, because the TOC request will fail
due to this new Sony Disc format. I find it somewhat amusing
that Sony Changers fail to read Sony discs :) Also as
stated above, the recommended work around for this is
to load Disc 2, (or any other readable disc) just to fill
the slot so the Escient doesnt think its empty, then swap
it out for the correct movie and manually edit the information
to contain the correct data.

This is also what Escient will recommend you do if you
call their tech support.

-3B

Thanks for the tip. I tried this with my Elan VIA!dvdj and it doesn't quite like this work around! If I put in a disk that's readable, catalog it then put in one of the newer disks that won't catalog, it keeps a link between the two disks and I can't separate the names. This might sound confusing but it goes like this:

Put Flushed Away into a blank slot (it was already recognized a few weeks ago)
Catalog it and the system sees a disk
Take Flushed Away out and put it back into it's original slot
Put Stranger Than Fiction in the slot I started with
Go to the software interface and see that I now have 2 Flushed Away's
Edit the Title and upload the correct cover art and they BOTH change

Really annoying - if I pick the correct Flushed Away in the list, it will PLAY Stranger Than Fiction but I can't change and make the names unique.

Sigh......
~It's a typical situation in typical times. Too many choices~
Post 17 made on Tuesday April 3, 2007 at 08:19
triple B
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If you dont load ALL discs from your movies, such as the bonus discs or the extras, try using those. So for Casino Royale, use Disc 2 as your readable disc. Then remove it and replace it with Disc 1 and leave Disc 2 out of the changer all together.

-3B
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Post 18 made on Friday April 6, 2007 at 19:05
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Interesting post about the firmware update on the Sony. I saw something about this a couple of years ago, it involved burning a DVD with the new firmware on it, and then initiating several different keypad combinations on the remote to get it to upload the new firmware...I never tried this...made me nervous.
Post 19 made on Friday April 6, 2007 at 19:09
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On April 2, 2007 at 02:22, triple B said...


snipped for brevity
This is also what Escient will recommend you do if you
call their tech support.

-3B

I think escient tech support owes me one :)
Post 20 made on Sunday April 8, 2007 at 07:00
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This problem is caused by the Sony RootKit protection. Rip the dvd using AnyDvd then burn a new copy with the rootkit/copy protection removed.

Using a combination of AnyDvd and DvdShrink, it's simple to backup the DVD and burn a playable/readable copy.

I understand that this solution will raise objections from the standpoint of piracy etc, but I'm not trying to pirate anything - simply just trying to play it.
If Bush's brains were gasoline, he wouldn't have enough to power a piss-ants go kart around the inside of a Cheerio.
Post 21 made on Monday April 9, 2007 at 23:35
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You could call Sony. Tell them your problem and they will offer to fix your DVD player for you for free. All you have to do is send it to them at your expense and wait a month or two to get it back.
Post 22 made on Tuesday April 10, 2007 at 03:43
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On March 21, 2007 at 13:43, erock1 said...
josch, thank you. That information is very helpful. By
any chance did you happen to remove Escient from your
CX777ES and try to play the movies? Again, I'm tryinmg
to determine if the CX777ES or Escient is the problem.
I have a strong hunch that the CX777ES is the problem.
I believe that the player is having problems recognizing
Sony's use of it's own ARCCOS. The 3 movies you named
all came out in 2006 and I have found a more agressive
use of ARCCOS in the studio's latest releases. Again,
this is only a theory but I'm thinking that the software
Sony used in the DVD changer is modified from the program
used in single players.

Again, if it's not too much trouble, could you remove
Escient and try the movies with just the player.

TIA,
Erock
Post 23 made on Tuesday April 10, 2007 at 03:45
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Here's the official answer/workaround from the Escient website:

[Link: escient.com]
Post 24 made on Tuesday April 10, 2007 at 05:14
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That's not much of a workaround, especially if it's expected that ALL new Sony movies will be using this.
Post 25 made on Tuesday April 10, 2007 at 12:55
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Please don't get me wrong as I am not advocating this and I do not own or would ever use this. I'm only posting it as another workaround to the dispicable problems that Sony's new attempt to eliminate copying has caused. Not to mention the rather ridiculous Escient fix.

A company called Slysoft has produced a program called AnyDVD, that effectively hides, cloaks or removes (I'm not sure how it works) Sony's ARCCOS, layer breaks, bad .ifo sectors and any thing else that Sony has managed to come up with, to date!

It is my understanding that once installed, you can either have the program run at startup with an icon displayed in your system tray or you can start it manually. Once AnyDVD is running, you just insert your movie and it removes the problems.

Good luck,
Erock
Post 26 made on Tuesday April 10, 2007 at 13:54
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Even the freeware DVD backup software (DVDFab Decrypter) will remove ARCCOS.

I don't advocate the copying of DVD's, but there's a difference between a personal backup and Netflix copy.

If you rip the DVD with DVDFab then use DVD Shrink to remove the menus, previews, etc, it's a lot nicer of a disc to use in a changer. You push the button and the movie starts...no menus, previews, etc.
LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!
Post 27 made on Wednesday April 11, 2007 at 15:19
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OTAHD
the only difference (other than a free prog) is that with DVDFab you're first copying the movie to your hard drive, like you said "rip the DVD". Also, I'm fairly certain that DVDFab will allow you to remove menus, foreign language, commentary, etc. I know it allowed this in v. 0.17.0 back in '03. It just doesn't transcode (compress). With AnyDVD, your not putting anything on your hard drive. AnyDVD does it's thing without you even playing the movie. You just srat the prog or let it run on startup, put the movie in the rom and it's done. You can then use Shrink, CloneDVD or anyother burning prog to compress and copy.
Post 28 made on Wednesday April 11, 2007 at 22:00
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DVDFab's free version won't do any of that. All it will do is rip to the hard drive, although then again it might let you rip main movie only. But you can't choose the parts you want to keep/get rid of like you can in DVD Shrink.

So what you can do is rip the full disc with DVDFab and then use Shrink to strip it from all of its extra content.
LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!
Post 29 made on Thursday April 12, 2007 at 15:26
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On April 10, 2007 at 05:14, Daniel Tonks said...
That's not much of a workaround, especially if it's expected
that ALL new Sony movies will be using this.

Maybe this is the answer we have been waiting for in regards to Sony Pictures DVD Issue?

I read from another thread from a different site that Sony claims (should we trust them) that it is NOT a copy-right change rather a couple of their presses. Some of those affected titles might actually work for some people. Sony advised him to stay away from Sony releases until it has been resolved.

Didn't say when though. :-)

Edit: Should we trust Sony after the "rootkit-gate"?

Last edited by wjjz106 on April 12, 2007 19:16.
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Post 30 made on Monday April 16, 2007 at 17:00
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I now have two copies of the Casino Royal DVD and neither will play in my brand new Sony 400 disc changer. The product divisions at Sony have their heads so far up their own A...s that their products are not even compatible with each other. This issue is not isolated to the one movie.

The recommendation is, if it says Sony on the disk don't buy it. It isn't worth the hassle since most places won't return a DVD or at best will only replace it with the same defective copy.

I will try the workaround, thank you for that.
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