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Post 1 made on Friday June 10, 2005 at 21:38
Ken Little
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I hate hate hate panasonic products!!!! I am trying to program my friends remote with discreets but he has 3 panasonic devices (projection TV, VHS, Sat Reciever). After all my digging through, and trying of all the discreet panasonic codes listed here at RC nothing works. There isn't even a catagory for panasonic directv satellite receivers. I will NEVER buy a panasonic product! In fact I will never buy a product again that doesn't come with tons of discreets like Harmon Kardon, Sony, etc. In the meantime does anyone have a way for me to figure out some discreet ON/OFFs and component video codes?
Post 2 made on Saturday June 11, 2005 at 13:29
TwistedMelon
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You must be kidding, right?

If you look (carefully) in the file section, you'll notice that Panasonic has more discretes listed than the majority of other brands. I'm not saying any of your models support them, but that as a whole, there are a TON of Panasonic discretes. And plenty more not posted in the discrete files section.

This is your first time posting - I have no idea how long you've been reading or visiting however. Let me share a little secret with you... The files section is not Remote Central's largest/most important resource. Not by a long shot. The most valuable established resource is the forum database and it's constantly being fed by the absolutely most important resource of all: its members.

Did you take the information learned from the codes in the files section and then try to apply some knowledge that could have been obtained from the forums?

Many times Panasonic discrete ON function number is 62 and OFF is 63 (decimal). Those functions work on many of their products, TVs and VCRs included. However different models may (and do) use different device codes (for obvious reasons). The codes in the file section are only using very specific device numbers. You may need to create your own codes.

Download the Yahoo Group's version or IRTool (you can try the one in this file section, but make sure it's the one that says it's been modified to work with DecodeIR.dll)

Download a fresh copy of DecodeIR.dll (search the forums to get John's personal comcast URL)

Download Makehex and read the enclosed instructions.

Obtain a few learned signals from your devices to find out what device numbers they use - by pasting the Pronto Hex into IRTool.

Now using Makehex create all the commands for your devices (again, read instructions or follow other examples posted in the forums - I just wrote the steps in another thread and John Fine has posted these countless times).

Copy out the hex for the specific commands you want (I just posted likely candidates for Power On and Off), find the others you want and try them out.

BTW, many Satellite receivers don't have discrete Power codes (this isn't something specific to Panasonic).

Bruno
https://TwistedMelon.com - Mira & Manta IR - Remote Control Your Apps
OP | Post 3 made on Sunday June 12, 2005 at 01:03
Ken Little
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Bruno thanks for the help...Actually I have been a member for over 3 years and use these resource pages regularly. I just have not posted anything in a very long time and out of my total frustration I went to post yesterday and was asked to recreate my ID. Hence I look like a newbie.

I have always had very good luck finding all the discreets that I have ever needed. If I couldn't find one I was able to use work arounds to program the Pronto remotes to do what clients/friends have wanted them to do. For what ever reason I bumped into a wall of not finding codes or work arounds to automate my macros and it just so happened that the culprit, troublesome items were all panasonic.

I dug and scoured the pages here at RC, but could not find anything that solved my problems. (found many threads with people complaining about not having discreets for panasonic tv component function). Therefore I will dive into the world of making my own codes. I must admitt the learning curve seems high just to accomplish my goal of finding a few commands on a few products, but on the other hand I have always wanted to learn how make your own codes. I have seen quite a few posting on the topic but never needed to take the time to learn...that is until now.

If I am succesfull I will definetly post them here in hopes of alleviating some other poor soul's frustration.

Ken
Post 4 made on Tuesday June 21, 2005 at 21:12
DenCollins
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I'm having a few weird problems with my Panny TH-50PX50U in regards to discretes. I have tried just about every one that I can find here and none of them seem to work. I used the Power ON/OFF discretes from my panny 34 HDTV and they work fine. Trouble is I can't find anything that seems to control the Video inputs and aspect ratios. I am presently using alia's on my pronto to toggle through (or to) each command.

But here's the kicker...A lot of the remote buttons on my old panny 34 remote actually control the 50" Plasma. Not discretes..except for one. If I push the the R-Tune Button on the 34 remote it goes directly to Video 02 without fail. This Leads me to believe that there are discretes for the panny 50" plasma.

I called Panasonic and they said that there were no Discretes on any Plasma models in last couple of years. Hard to believe..especially since I read a post here by an expert installer that said..."They will always tell you that." And something to fact that you have to go to a Higher level of Tech support to get any real answers.

I'm at wits end..I Downloaded and looked at "IRTool" and it looks rather complicated to do. The documentation isn't exactly "user Friendly". If someone could just "Point " me in the right direction that would be much appreciated.

This message was edited by DenCollins on 06/22/05 09:23 ET.
Post 5 made on Wednesday June 22, 2005 at 14:24
TwistedMelon
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You don't need IRTool to make codes. All you have to do with that program is paste a single ProntoHex into its hex edit box ( the big one at the bottom) and then press the decode button. Make sure you use the version of IRTool that works with DecodeIR.dll (which you'll also have to download - search the forum for posts by John Fine)

It will tell you the protocol, device# and function# for that code. Now download a current copy of makehex (search the forum, it's not up in the files section). Edit the correct IRP file (matching the name of the protocol in the step above) and modify it for the device# also from the step above. Use that file to generate a text file with all 256 possible commands for that device.

Then make a CCF or otherwise paste that ProntoHex into your remote software and update your remote. Try one code at a time. ***

*** BE CAREFUL. Some TV's have commands which will enter a low-level service menu or issue a low-level discrete that does some service option. If a menu, don't touch anything. Reset your TV by unplugging and replugging. The most dangerous case is hitting some low-level discrete that renders your TV set unusable.

So, that's how you do it, but you've also been warned about a potential pitfall.

Bruno
https://TwistedMelon.com - Mira & Manta IR - Remote Control Your Apps
Post 6 made on Wednesday June 22, 2005 at 15:07
DenCollins
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Thanks Bruno!

That Low Level service code thing looks Mighty Scary! It's almost as if you were to flash the BIOS on a PC and you did it wrong. I've seen and heard way too many stories about that!

I'm not quite sure what a single ProntoHex is..although I think I've seen them here somewhere. I guess I still got a lot of learning to do! But slowly but surely...I'm geeting closer.



Thanks Again for your Help!

This message was edited by DenCollins on 06/22/05 15:29 ET.
Post 7 made on Wednesday June 22, 2005 at 21:34
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Well..I was able to get theIRtool Thing to generate a code it looked like this
Protocol: Panasonic
Device: 128.4
OBC: 222
EFC: 238

I went to open the panny .irp file in makehex but that program just quits (Windows XP OS?) However, I did open the Panny.irp file in wordpad and the only numbers I saw there was 128.0

Does that mean that there was a revision to this code or .irp file?

But I still don't understand the whole thing.
Post 8 made on Wednesday June 22, 2005 at 23:48
TwistedMelon
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Makehex is a command line program. You won't get a UI after launching it from Explorer.

After modifying the correct IRP file, drag the IRP file onto the Makehex program and drop it. It will cause Makehex to read the IRP file and it will generate a protocol.hex file ("protocol" being the name of the IRP file you dropped).

Just open that .hex file in a text editor (notepad, etc.) and you'll see all 256 functions/commands.

What you do with those commands will depend on what remote you have. Whether you can paste Pronto Hex or whether you need to first make a CCF, etc...

Bruno
https://TwistedMelon.com - Mira & Manta IR - Remote Control Your Apps


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