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| Topic: | Costco Pioneer Plasma No Discretes (!!!!) This thread has 30 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 30. |
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| Post 16 made on Wednesday December 7, 2005 at 06:32 |
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I don't know how this happened, it flew under my radar until I had to go and program the remote (that they needed me to program it should have been my first clue). I showed up at the house monday to find a Panasonic plasma, Outlaw pre/pro and amp, Toshiba single DVD, Mitsubishi VCR, Sony TiVo and two escients (DVD-M100,E2-400). The only thing we sold him was the Escient. Two of us spent the entire day d*cking around with the programming/wiring to get it working. Hope he saved a lot of money on that stuff, because we're still not done programming, and he's paying T&M.
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| OP | Post 17 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 01:54 |
Steve Garn Senior Member |
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On December 6, 2005 at 23:01, AHEM said...
When I hear a customer say "oh, I saw this great
deal at Store X", I'll immediatley tell them that
I can't guarantee that anything that they buy
outside of what was specified for the job will
work correctly.
Exactly! I've been doing Pioneers for years. I had no idea they were just making a worthless cheap knockoff waste of programming time toad for Costco (at least the 42"). Maybe now we can make some $ on some plasmas again.
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Manuals?! We don't need no stinking manuals! a.. er.. |
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| Post 18 made on Sunday January 22, 2006 at 22:26 |
edchan Lurking Member |
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With my Pioneer PDP-4214HD from Costco, 204 works as a remote on; I haven't found a remote off yet.
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| OP | Post 19 made on Monday January 23, 2006 at 00:42 |
Steve Garn Senior Member |
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204 on an MX-850?? How about inputs? That's the real kicker.
Pioneer tech support told me on three seperate calls there were no discretes at all.
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Manuals?! We don't need no stinking manuals! a.. er.. |
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| Post 20 made on Monday January 23, 2006 at 11:35 |
Vincent Delpino Select Member |
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On December 6, 2005 at 23:01, AHEM said...
Then at the end of the day, I'd reflect upon all
of the time and energy that I spent in trying
to solve a problem that not only didn't I create,
but someone else made the money on. Oh but he did creat the problem when he said : go out and buy a Pioneer plasma at costco. These are Commercial products with no Shielding, prossesing, or descrete commands. They are refered to as Digital Signnage. Everything in the home causes interference on these things. I recently picked up a customer that had spent a ton of money from another company who sold them Commercial displays. I was able to set one side by side with a Vidikron with the same signal and a Retarded Blind Baboon could see the difference in quality and noise on the Commercial display. It costs half the price for a reason.
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| OP | Post 21 made on Friday February 10, 2006 at 14:56 |
Steve Garn Senior Member |
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I'm resurrecting this post 'cause of the new 50" model at Costco:
PDP 50A5HD
Does this have discretes?
Pioneer has not posted on their site concerning this one yet
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Manuals?! We don't need no stinking manuals! a.. er.. |
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| Post 22 made on Friday February 10, 2006 at 15:34 |
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You can use the ccf file for the PDP-5050HD that is on the Pioneer website. Of course, there are a few less inputs (no i.LINK or PC). No discretes for screen size are available.
Universal has the PDP50A5 listed in their database but it looks like they just copied the 5050's codes; no big deal as they are the same.
John
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| Post 23 made on Friday February 10, 2006 at 15:56 |
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On December 6, 2005 at 23:01, AHEM said...
I'd maliciously tell the customer to call the
local Costco and ask for the discretes.
Then at the end of the day, I'd reflect upon all
of the time and energy that I spent in trying
to solve a problem that not only didn't I create,
but someone else made the money on.
Like most of you, I devote a heck of a lot of
time in researching components and establishing
good relationships with manufacturers so that
I may be able to provided products with good track
records and be able find help when I'm in my time
of need. This (painstaiking and unbillable time)
is then wrapped up and packaged into our hourly
rate and into the pricing of our goods.
When I hear a customer say "oh, I saw this great
deal at Store X", I'll immediatley tell them that
I can't guarantee that anything that they buy
outside of what was specified for the job will
work correctly.
WORD! Feel the same way.
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| Post 24 made on Friday March 21, 2008 at 13:04 |
Springs Super Member |
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2 years later and I am dealing with this POS!
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| Post 25 made on Friday March 21, 2008 at 14:15 |
phil Founding Member |
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On December 3, 2005 at 23:26, tweetymp4 said...
post weather It is snowing here, 6" so far with another 6" expected. SE Wisconsin.
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| Post 26 made on Friday March 21, 2008 at 22:39 |
oex Super Member |
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i worked on a $8 million yacht that had one. Real POS made in Korea. Almost impossible to get reliable operation from.
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| Post 27 made on Friday March 21, 2008 at 22:55 |
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Don't send your clients to Costco for electronics and then tell them you will integrate that product. Unless you like losing money of course...
I did a project where I supplied several Pioneer's, all of which worked just fine. Client supplied one 50" he picked up from Costco.. I tried several codes with no luck, gave him a toggle button on the remote for that display.
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| Post 28 made on Wednesday April 1, 2009 at 02:55 |
RTI Installer Super Member |
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hey, can anyone post pioneer code 204 hex here please
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| Post 29 made on Wednesday April 1, 2009 at 11:33 |
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There are no discrete codes or RS-232 for those models. Don't ask cause no one can tell.
That was an ill-fated attempt at an inexpensive "cash & carry" model for Costco.
Who knew that these would be integrated with new remotes and systems? Actually everybody but the product planners.
The last of these models (PDP4216 / 5016) in 2006 were sold to Tweeter. Later runs of these 2 models did have discrete On & Off after we pleaded for them.
Sorry to see that after 3 - 8 years they still cause problems.
Never again!
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| Post 30 made on Wednesday April 1, 2009 at 12:22 |
tgav8rs Active Member |
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OK, so the client buys display from Costco because it's cheaper. How much time and money have they now spent trying to get this to work? Oh and when it fails, what other knock off display are they going to exchange it for that they will now have to spend money getting integrated?
So where is the savings on a deal like this?
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