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Post 1 made on Monday September 30, 2024 at 17:57
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I have a system that I can't get rid of a low level noise/ hum

Sony 3000ES AVR with front pre outs going to a Crown amp
Apple TV> HDMI to the Sony
Remote HDMI wall connection (AV Pro Edge)
Epson Home Cinema 3800 (connected with AV Pro Edge AC-EX444-T2 Extender)
The Sony power cord only has two prongs and the Crown amp has three (ground)
I disconnected all sources and connections from the Sony and only the L/R preouts going to the Crown, still has it.
I also tried an inline RCA ground loop isolator from Amazon (Don't shame me) that didn't work.
The only way it stops is using a 3/2 ground breaker adapter. I know this isn't the way to leave it, so I'm wondering what else should I try. Higher quality RCA ground loop isolator? or what else?
Post 2 made on Monday September 30, 2024 at 23:37
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I always use Jensen. They ain’t the cheapest, but I know that the issue will be gone. I took over a large installation that had stuff scattered all over the house, multiple VCR’s, TV’s, disc players, B&O receivers, Yamaha receivers, and hidden stuff that I don’t think that I have yet discovered. There were ground loops everywhere. I could see that someone had been struggling to eliminate the ground loops. They were using cheap isolators, and no discipline. I installed a few Jensen’s, kept my discipline, and the issue(s) were gone.

Make sure that you don’t have an unexpected chassis ground. CATV is a trouble maker.
Post 3 made on Tuesday October 1, 2024 at 07:00
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On September 30, 2024 at 23:37, buzz said...
I always use Jensen. They ain’t the cheapest, but I know that the issue will be gone. I took over a large installation that had stuff scattered all over the house, multiple VCR’s, TV’s, disc players, B&O receivers, Yamaha receivers, and hidden stuff that I don’t think that I have yet discovered. There were ground loops everywhere. I could see that someone had been struggling to eliminate the ground loops. They were using cheap isolators, and no discipline. I installed a few Jensen’s, kept my discipline, and the issue(s) were gone.

Make sure that you don’t have an unexpected chassis ground. CATV is a trouble maker.

+1
Post 4 made on Tuesday October 1, 2024 at 09:22
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On September 30, 2024 at 17:57, PSS said...
I have a system that I can't get rid of a low level noise/ hum

Sony 3000ES AVR with front pre outs going to a Crown amp
Apple TV> HDMI to the Sony
Remote HDMI wall connection (AV Pro Edge)
Epson Home Cinema 3800 (connected with AV Pro Edge AC-EX444-T2 Extender)
The Sony power cord only has two prongs and the Crown amp has three (ground)
I disconnected all sources and connections from the Sony and only the L/R preouts going to the Crown, still has it.
I also tried an inline RCA ground loop isolator from Amazon (Don't shame me) that didn't work.
The only way it stops is using a 3/2 ground breaker adapter. I know this isn't the way to leave it, so I'm wondering what else should I try. Higher quality RCA ground loop isolator? or what else?

OK, so the hum stops when you disconnect the Crown amp- what model and input type? If you're using RCA to XLR, lift the connection to Pin 1, not the electrical ground. If it stops, you're done. If the amp uses the screw-type or Phoenix connections, lift the audio ground wire on that.

Your power amp and AVR are powered by the same outlet and on the same circuit, right?
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 5 made on Tuesday October 1, 2024 at 09:30
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Which Crown amp?
On the West Coast of Wisconsin
OP | Post 6 made on Thursday October 3, 2024 at 10:59
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On October 1, 2024 at 09:22, highfigh said...
OK, so the hum stops when you disconnect the Crown amp- what model and input type? If you're using RCA to XLR, lift the connection to Pin 1, not the electrical ground. If it stops, you're done. If the amp uses the screw-type or Phoenix connections, lift the audio ground wire on that.

Your power amp and AVR are powered by the same outlet and on the same circuit, right?

I don't know what type of connection between the Croan and Sony- Have to get back to see

Yes- they are both plugged into the same outlet/ circuit
OP | Post 7 made on Thursday October 3, 2024 at 11:00
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On October 1, 2024 at 09:30, Fred Harding said...
Which Crown amp?

I need to get back the site and check (job notes doesn't show model...)
Post 8 made on Friday October 4, 2024 at 10:01
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On October 3, 2024 at 11:00, PSS said...
I need to get back the site and check (job notes doesn't show model...)

Is anyone working or living onsite? Can they send a photo of the front panel?
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."


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