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| Topic: | No optical output on new Samsung 75"...........UPDATE!! This thread has 16 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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| Post 1 made on September 18, 2024 at 10:22 |
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We went out to swap a 55" for a 75" and it had an existing Sonos Playbar. Got mount relocated, etc. and went to connect things and it has no optical output..... Thank God client bought the TV, Costco I think. So, the question is- Is there an HDMI Arc adapter that converts to optical to use with this situation? Though I think volume would be an issue as HDMI Arc output will be variable. Any ideas in salvaging/ using this Playbar would be appreciated. Thank you "TACOS"!!! The adapter you recommended worked perfect. I reset the TV after connecting all inputs and things are fine. THANKS FOR THE HELP.
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| Post 2 made on September 18, 2024 at 10:40 |
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Maybe an HDMI audio extractor?
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| OP | Post 3 made on September 18, 2024 at 10:53 |
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On September 18, 2024 at 11:40, tomciara said...
Maybe an HDMI audio extractor? That's what I thought. But not sure how the volume use of the Samsung remote will affect the feed to the Sonos Playbar......I don't think it can be a fixed coming out of the "adapter" since it's Arc. It would end up a double volume (Arc and the Sonos Playbar itself). |
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| Post 4 made on September 18, 2024 at 12:35 |
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On September 18, 2024 at 11:53, PSS said...
That's what I thought. But not sure how the volume use of the Samsung remote will affect the feed to the Sonos Playbar......I don't think it can be a fixed coming out of the "adapter" since it's Arc. It would end up a double volume (Arc and the Sonos Playbar itself). I don’t believe that’s true. For starters, you don’t have to use the HDMI connector with the ARC label. Second, how are you expecting an ARC handshake when you don’t have an ARC connection speaking at both ends? I think you are just fine. The Playbar does not have any ARC functionality at all, it is IR from your remote. |
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| Post 5 made on September 18, 2024 at 15:43 |
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On September 18, 2024 at 11:22, PSS said...
Though I think volume would be an issue as HDMI Arc output will be variable. I wouldn't be of any help with your situation. But, what do you mean variable volume output? Does either the ARC or digital optical output allows for variable volume output? Or am I misunderstanding something here? KOT |
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| Post 6 made on September 18, 2024 at 17:28 |
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The new 7200 series from Samsung doesn’t have optical. I just ran into this problem last week. I used a part from orei that takes arc to optical. It is a little bit finicky but it did work. I think it was actually the tv that was causing my issues, not the extractor. I had to hook it all up then do the initial setup on the tv again to get the arc to finally go through the extractor. The volume coming out the extractor is fixed. I learned the volume up and down from the Samsung tv into the Sonos. The volume is a bit low with it but I was able to increase the source input through the Sonos app. [Link: a.co] |
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| OP | Post 7 made on September 19, 2024 at 12:59 |
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Maybe I should give a clear picture of system: Samsung TV with three HDMI's, no optical output DirecTV Genie on HDMI 1
Apple TV on HDMI 2
Third HDMI (3) Arc empty Sonos Playbar (which as we know controls TV volume with learned IR) Question:
If I'm playing something on either HDMI #1 or #2 will that provide an audio output to HDMI/ ARC #3? If so, would it be fixed or variable? |
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| Post 8 made on September 20, 2024 at 08:41 |
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On September 19, 2024 at 13:59, PSS said...
Maybe I should give a clear picture of system: Samsung TV with three HDMI's, no optical output DirecTV Genie on HDMI 1
Apple TV on HDMI 2
Third HDMI (3) Arc empty Sonos Playbar (which as we know controls TV volume with learned IR) Question:
If I'm playing something on either HDMI #1 or #2 will that provide an audio output to HDMI/ ARC #3? If so, would it be fixed or variable? It is not as though you are snagging a line output or an old-fashioned audio output from the TV. The ARC output, to be active, has to connect an ARC input on a receiver or amp. So in that case the TV and amplifier are linked, and volume up on the TV changes the amplifier volume. Although I have never tried it, I suppose up and down volume on the TV would control the amplifier on HDMI 3, and your IR remote could separately adjust the sound bar, as long as you did not use the same TV codes on the sound bar. I guess I am not sure what your end result needs to be. |
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| Post 9 made on September 20, 2024 at 10:44 |
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This is why I think TVs should be simple displays. TV tuners aren't difficult to make and if they add a hard drive.....oh, right- they had that. ARC/eARC, CEC, HDMI and the problems are reasons I think we're destined to a life of frustration, if we stay in the business. |
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| OP | Post 10 made on September 20, 2024 at 11:39 |
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On September 18, 2024 at 18:28, Tacos said...
The new 7200 series from Samsung doesn’t have optical. I just ran into this problem last week. I used a part from orei that takes arc to optical. It is a little bit finicky but it did work. I think it was actually the tv that was causing my issues, not the extractor. I had to hook it all up then do the initial setup on the tv again to get the arc to finally go through the extractor. The volume coming out the extractor is fixed. I learned the volume up and down from the Samsung tv into the Sonos. The volume is a bit low with it but I was able to increase the source input through the Sonos app. [Link: a.co] Ok, sounds like I have an option to try. To confirm, you had to physically connect everything then do another initial setup on the TV? Then go into the Playbars menu and turn up the source |
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| Post 11 made on September 20, 2024 at 15:02 |
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Note.... In general, the arc adapters have a "fixed" output on Toslink. Analog outputs on these arc adapters are variable. |
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| Post 12 made on September 22, 2024 at 22:51 |
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[Link: avproedge.com]This doohickey might do the trick, and then some. Disclaimer: I have not used one
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| Post 13 made on September 24, 2024 at 15:09 |
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Their audio down mixer will work as well. Pricey though. [Link: avproedge.com] |
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| Post 14 made on September 24, 2024 at 19:32 |
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Yes. I had to hook up everything to the tv first. I had already did the initial setup then hooked everything up but it didn’t work. Arc shows as available but I couldn’t select it. tech support recommended I do the tv setup again and that got the audio working. Yes in the Sonos app there was somewhere where I could increase the source volume and that gave me a little more volume.
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| OP | Post 15 made on September 25, 2024 at 10:01 |
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On September 24, 2024 at 20:32, Tacos said...
Yes. I had to hook up everything to the tv first. I had already did the initial setup then hooked everything up but it didn’t work. Arc shows as available but I couldn’t select it. tech support recommended I do the tv setup again and that got the audio working. Yes in the Sonos app there was somewhere where I could increase the source volume and that gave me a little more volume. Ok, then I'll try one of these adapters. One question- In the Sonos IR learning, did you learn the TV's factory volume codes (Samsung)? |
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