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On-Site: Marantz Volume question
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Post 16 made on Wednesday August 2, 2017 at 08:50
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Direct volume set commands would be the only thing that works for you.
Post 17 made on Wednesday August 2, 2017 at 08:57
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On August 1, 2017 at 17:58, Ernie Gilman said...
Ggr,
Thanks! You just reminded me that Yamaha has this and it will solve EXACTLY this problem I'e run into: no matter how low you set the input trim on the FM tuner, it's still much louder than the DirecTV receiver and BD player.

Did you know that you can adjust the level up and down for each source in Denon, Marantz and Yamaha? I would be surprised if the others don't allow this.
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Post 18 made on Wednesday August 2, 2017 at 09:03
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goldenzrule,

Are you attempting to create an input level control and match levels?

Regardless, you many need to stagger when you adjust the volume. For example, when selecting the higher level source, adjust the volume before the input selection.

If you are simply matching levels, and the volume control step size is fixed, increment or decrement the current volume setting while changing sources. Initial volume set will provide a predictable starting point. As the system operator, I don't think that I would like this, but you could insert a "ducking" function while changing inputs.
OP | Post 19 made on Wednesday August 2, 2017 at 11:44
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On August 2, 2017 at 09:03, buzz said...
goldenzrule,

Are you attempting to create an input level control and match levels?

Regardless, you many need to stagger when you adjust the volume. For example, when selecting the higher level source, adjust the volume before the input selection.

If you are simply matching levels, and the volume control step size is fixed, increment or decrement the current volume setting while changing sources. Initial volume set will provide a predictable starting point. As the system operator, I don't think that I would like this, but you could insert a "ducking" function while changing inputs.

Found an easier way. Throw Marantz in trash, insert Yamaha.
Post 20 made on Wednesday August 2, 2017 at 12:24
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That would be my preference too.  I know that there are some who trash Yamaha, but my experience has been solid. In the (very) rare case when there was a problem, they had my back.
OP | Post 21 made on Wednesday August 2, 2017 at 12:25
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On August 2, 2017 at 12:24, buzz said...
That would be my preference too.  I know that there are some who trash Yamaha, but my experience has been solid. In the (very) rare case when there was a problem, they had my back.

Who has trashed Yamaha, other than Brendon who just doesn't understand how it works?
Post 22 made on Wednesday August 2, 2017 at 12:47
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There's a long history of Yamaha being trashed, mostly focused on harsh audio sound. That "harshness" may well be accuracy.
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Post 23 made on Wednesday August 2, 2017 at 12:59
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On August 2, 2017 at 12:25, goldenzrule said...
Who has trashed Yamaha, other than Brendon who just doesn't understand how it works?

only because they sound like a computer and has some of the harshest sounds ive ever heard

:)
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OP | Post 24 made on Wednesday August 2, 2017 at 13:38
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On August 2, 2017 at 12:59, 3PedalMINI said...
only because they sound like a computer and has some of the harshest sounds ive ever heard

:)

They sound better than a Marantz hitting the bottom of a dumpster
Post 25 made on Wednesday August 2, 2017 at 20:06
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On August 1, 2017 at 22:26, goldenzrule said...
That does not help for this purpose

If you are using RTI this should totally accomplish what you want.... you can set any volume preset you want with your macros. Have a low volume for one source, another volume for another source , etc.

It is not only on turn on. I set the volume to whatever level i desire whenever. For example.... sometimes i make cool custom intros that play before a movie. I have the volume crank up to show off the audio for the into stuff, then it automatically lowers to a civil volume when the movie plays.

See what I mean here.....?t=4m31s

The command for the main zone is denon volume set then value.
For this video linked.... i set command to denon volume set (-160)for intro then adjust it to denon volume set (-220) for the movie

Last edited by gerard143 on August 2, 2017 20:21.
OP | Post 26 made on Wednesday August 2, 2017 at 20:38
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On August 2, 2017 at 20:06, gerard143 said...
If you are using RTI this should totally accomplish what you want.... you can set any volume preset you want with your macros. Have a low volume for one source, another volume for another source , etc.

It is not only on turn on. I set the volume to whatever level i desire whenever. For example.... sometimes i make cool custom intros that play before a movie. I have the volume crank up to show off the audio for the into stuff, then it automatically lowers to a civil volume when the movie plays.

See what I mean here.....?t=4m31s

The command for the main zone is denon volume set then value.
For this video linked.... i set command to denon volume set (-160)for intro then adjust it to denon volume set (-220) for the movie

If it's not only on turn on, then yes it would work, although we do not have RTI on the job.
Post 27 made on Thursday August 3, 2017 at 12:01
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On August 1, 2017 at 22:27, goldenzrule said...
Where can these codes be found? I downloaded the IR code list off of Marantz's public website and they did not have them listed there.

The Excel file that KOT linked to has tab 2 at the bottom, Direct Volume IR codes.
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OP | Post 28 made on Thursday August 3, 2017 at 19:58
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On August 3, 2017 at 12:01, kgossen said...
The Excel file that KOT linked to has tab 2 at the bottom, Direct Volume IR codes.

Thanks, I'll have to check later. Its not pulling up on my phone. I looked at it briefly when he posted it and I thought it was the same one I downloaded before that didn't have the volume commands. Maybe it's a different code list
Post 29 made on Thursday August 3, 2017 at 20:48
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Under that tab, it doesn't really say what it is. But on the first page you can see that it states those columns are "Remote Code: RC-5/ RC-5 Ex. Format"

At first I thought they were RS-232 codes. But I just noticed they are RC-5/RC-5 ex.

It's been a long while since I've worked with Pronto Pro. But couldn't that software generate IR codes out of RC-5/5 EX? Either by itself or with a SW that a member has created on here?

Or if it comes down to it. Download it to a Pronto and learn the IR codes from it.

KOT
Post 30 made on Friday August 4, 2017 at 05:00
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On August 2, 2017 at 13:38, goldenzrule said...
They sound better than a Marantz hitting the bottom of a dumpster

Marantz? I thought we'd all decided to call them Sherwood's after the factory where a majority of them are made?
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