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Use MoCA and satellite system to distribute internet connection?
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Post 1 made on Monday June 20, 2016 at 16:46
Ernie Gilman
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Back to one of the flips I'm working on:
We have discovered where they stashed all the RG6 wiring and we find what we need for DirecTV or cable exactly where we need it, plus added cabling from the dish location into the theater room. (Plus, fifty feet down the hill, the cutoff pole that the ten foot dish was on over twenty years ago.)

That still leaves network as a problem. We've found more than a dozen eight-conductor wires, but I doubt that any of them are CAT5. I mean, they were put into the house before the ten foot dish was installed.

I'm not quite sure how to phrase this, but: is it possible, or is it just a dumb idea, to wire up the satellite system, add MoCA to it, and thereby get internet distributed to the locations where we'll have dish receivers or clients? Sure, sure, I'm going to go now and look at all the MoCA schematics I can find. It's just you guys are faster than that!

Thanks.
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Post 2 made on Monday June 20, 2016 at 16:58
Fred Harding
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My recollection is that the coax between the receiver and the dish carries voltage, and that this will wipe out the moca signal.

Far better to consider a powerline solution in this context
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OP | Post 3 made on Monday June 20, 2016 at 17:34
Ernie Gilman
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I talked with Weaknees, and the guy I got on the phone got a little excited about the fact that he could give me all sorts of information but then I'd just go and get it the cheapest possible way by calling DirecTV. After I explained things a bit he calmed down, pointed out that he's giving me advice even though the advice means he won't sell me anything, and he said DirecTV could take care of doing this and I should start by calling them. That was helpful but his attitude still was a bit lacking.

Fred, there definitely is a power supply sending power up to the dish, but it's between the receivers and the dish. Only RF goes to the receivers. This system uses a wireless video bridge, like a SWM-8 but RF to each receiver.


DireCTV's version of MoCA, DECA, is probably what will be used for this.
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Post 4 made on Monday June 20, 2016 at 18:07
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Yes you can. In fact the original version of DECA (DirecTV's version of MOCA) used a device that split the internet out of the coax.

This is the device:

[Link: solidsignal.com]

So anywhere you have a receiver connected via coax, you can have internet. If you have modern receivers >H24, then you can use the ethernet port to connect to the internet. If you have older receivers <24's, then you will need to connect a switch to the DECA before the receiver (Actually if you aren't using whole home, then you can just use the port.

You will then need this:

[Link: solidsignal.com]

At the head end to connect to the home's internet connection.

Solid signal has tons of diagrams on how to connect complicated DirecTV system over and above what an installer can do.

PM me if you have any questions.
Post 5 made on Tuesday June 21, 2016 at 22:37
chuch jr
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Moca runs around 500 MHz which is below the 950 & up freq range of Swim. Therefore, Moca coexists on a swim system without issue And thus provides DirecTV systems the ability to do MRV and VOD on the Moca while still providing TV channels.

Since VOD is done thru the Internet and delivered to every DTV rec'r va the MOCA frequencies, we commonly use DirecTV deca modules to breakout Internet (residing on the Sat signal distribution) and networking to APs and other devices needing network connectivity
Post 6 made on Tuesday June 21, 2016 at 23:55
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If you found 8-conductor wiring, chances are it will work just fine for typical distances inside a house. I have validated CAT3 for gigabit over 200+ feet without any issues
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Post 7 made on Wednesday June 22, 2016 at 00:50
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Done it several times with great success, however I have only tried DirecTV's broadband DECA net port to the net port on a LED display. 4K streamed great on the panel. Actually, just today I tethered a TV off the net port of a coax wired ATnT UVerse box..

Have not tried to expand with a switch or WAP, but I'd bet money it would work.


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