I say "dead" to distinguish it from "live."

One of the great things about the CCP live update is that once you're on line, you can just do the update. One of the bad things about it is that, in my case, I have an ongoing problem getting CCP to work properly on my ThinkPad T420 running Windows 7, and I can't go back to the computer I used previously since I really don't want to connect an XP computer to the internet.

Does anyone know of some kind of update file that might be loaded into such a computer, then run to update CCP?

Just download the newest full version from the website and put it on a USB...

Ah, would that 'twere so simple!

One does not download an update and then run it. One opens CCP while ONLINE. CCP then detects ONLINE that a LIVE UPDATE is available. You choose yes; while ONLINE, the update is downloaded and installed -- you never see the file that is the update -- the update finishes, and CCP closes. You then open it again and you have an updated program.

I was asking if someone knew of a file that could be used for this because that would be necessary for updating a computer without putting it ONLINE.

He's saying to download and install the latest full version from URC and hope it's pretty current without having to do an update.

Since I'm having problems with CCP on Windows 7 as well - every time I start it up, it pops up an error that says "Cannot find the file specified" with no further details, I uninstalled what I had and tried using the latest web version, which seems to be from March.

Anyways, I still get that stupid error. But the version is 3.6.0304.1. After update, it's 3.6.0613.1. At any rate, it looks like numerous patch files are downloaded depending on your current version, so there's no easy one-click offline update possible.

BTW, worrying about connecting an XP computer to the internet when your entire purpose is only to update a piece of software once, is much like worrying about your car ending up in a lake if you take it out the garage. Stay away from lakes (and certainly don't drive into them), and you'll be fine.

Heck, I still have a Windows 98 system that's able to go online!

I downloaded the installation file today and put it on the XP machine.

The live update window states that new remote control modules will be added with the update. The version that installed from today's download is indeed 3.6.0304.1. But the component choices I get with this default non-updated version are the MRF-350, MRF-260, MSC-400, and MRZ-260. The "Remotes" window has no items in it.

All I can ask is for you to try it yourself. Download, install, don't update, and see which remotes can be set up.

(Incidentally, I had to go find ToolkitPro1502vc80.dll on my other computer since it did not come with the download. I copied it into the directory with the CCP exe file. The program did not open without that file, but instead said it could not find it, then stopped trying to open.)

Are you using the commercial version? No similar issue with the residential. Remotes window is populated with 17 models before update, and it has that DLL even though I still get an error about a missing file when opening (however it does start up correctly, and I can't seem to find anything actually broken).

The first bit of this experience was the URC Tech recommending against using the Commercial version, so I got rid of it.

Every issue here is with the Residential version. So what the hell? There weren't ANY remotes to be selected in the version I downloaded!

If you look at the overview of the update, you don't need to perform it as long as none of it pertains to what you're programming- close the update window and click Cancel when it asks if you want to update. Are you trying to change something on this remote that can only be done with subsequent updates? If not, use the computer with XP and don't go online.

When opening the program while not connected to the internet, the update window doesn't appear.


I can't tell. So far I haven't been able to even figure out how to tell.


Where does one see the overview of the update? Have I just been hitting "Update" without reading all the bla bla bla description of it? All I remember is it saying that remotes not available at the time of the original program will be added to the program via the update.

That sure makes sense, because when I open CCP on the XP computer, no remotes appear when I try to select components for the system.

I have no idea if I need subsequently updated CCP to fix these remotes, but if CCP doesn't show any remotes in the system creation area (sorry, forgot the exact title), will it work with the remotes? I have to make an appointment and drive thirty miles to find out.

In which case, I'm wondering if it's no longer fully compatible with XP? A lot of software, even 32-bit, has dropped XP support (or at least the components/installers it relies upon might have). Of course, that doesn't help when your Windows 7 system isn't working either.

I'm at a bit of a loss here. Although, considering the file error I'm seeing, I'm not certain everything's 100% buttoned down with CCP lately.

I have an SD card in my Windows 7 computer and that seems to have caused some problems. For instance, you can't download installation files to it; they have to go to the main drive, which in this case is an SSD.

I'm guessing that the problem I had was that I was trying to save files to the wrong place but the software, instead of giving me a message to that effect, was locking up. I now have a working updated version of CCP that I've played with enough to see that it actually works.

Thanks for the help along the way.

What, exactly, are you trying to change? If it's just simple changes to commands and macros, you don't need to deal with updates, anyway.

When I posted about seeing an overview, it was after opening CCP, but I was online.

WRT no remotes showing, did you get the setup from the remote? Is it like a new configuration when you open CCP?

As a "by the way," I should have stated that my latest CCP installation looked like it was performing correctly on my computer, but I won't know for sure until I go to the client's house to finish the work.


This entire thing started with the T420 I've described; a new client who is moving into a house with an old system; a few MX-980s (I might have written 780s in one of these posts); and a couple of new Yamaha receivers replacing Marantz receivers.

So I needed to make CCP work on my computer and I needed to modify existing files. The problems occurred before I was able to get any of that done. CCP did not save properly, and locked up, from the moment I tried to use it with those remotes.


It seems you are saying you have experimented with two installed versions of CCP in order to see if you could make changes on a remote with a version not updated via live update, and you found you could use an outdated version of the software? The software says there's an update, so I did it.

Somewhere there's a note saying the live update puts the newest remotes into the software. Also, I've seen (perhaps not in CCP) notices that a remote was modified with software newer than what's being run on the computer; this forces one to make the update. So it never occurred to me NOT to do the update.


I thought that might be the case. Those last examples were of a computer not connected to the internet.


I could not get to the point of connecting to the remote, since a)the software was not working right, and b)during the last several tries I was not in the client's home. I already wasted four hours over two days trying to fix this while on site.

The "no remotes" situation was this: I had downloaded the CCP setup file, copied it using a USB stick to the old XP computer, and installed it. That's it.

When I opened the program (no internet connection), the usual box saying hey, there's an update, did not appear. That makes sense since lack of internet connection should result in lack of notification about a live update. I did this at home, so I did not have the client's remote with me; all I could do was see how the program behaved all by itself.

I exercised the software a bit, pretending to create a new file. At the start, we are to choose the processors and interfaces (remotes) we're going to use. There were five or so processors to choose from and ZERO remote controls to choose from. In the software. For a new file.

Somehow I thought I had described everything pretty well, but I know there's a lot of distance between what we think we explain and what the reader actually.... hey, wait a minute: look at that quote in my signature!

I have never been in a position that I had to do an update to make changes, updates scare me! Ha ha! Hell, I'm still using Windows 8 ( not even 8.1)