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| Topic: | Looking for extension arms to attach to 4" square boxes This thread has 11 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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| Post 1 made on Wednesday June 15, 2016 at 12:21 |
lippavisual Senior Member |
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Customer is installing some Meraki WAP's in over 20 buildings that they own, 1 per building. These waps are for analytic information only and will be mounted on the side wall of each building entrance. They are trying to track passer-bys as they walk down from one side of the street to the other.
My problem is, is that I need to get these waps facing the street, out the main entrance.
What I'm looking for is something along the lines of a security camera arm, that has some extension and can pivot. We plan on attaching the mounting plate for the wap at the end of each arm.
Does anyone know if something like this exists? I've googled around some security arms, but the majority of them won't mate to a 4" square box without us trying to mount it to flat 4" cover. I was hoping to find something that we can screw right to the open 4" square box. Also, where the camera is supposed to mount on these arms, there isn't alot of flexibility for us to mount a flat mounting plate for the wap.
Any input would be appreciated and thanks in advance!!
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| Post 2 made on Wednesday June 15, 2016 at 13:01 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 30,076 |
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This sounds interesting. The folks who want it done just need to spend the money to have the hardware fabricated.
What I've heard referred to as a 4" box is intended to be inside a wall with a metal box cover on it. Then drywall or some other finish covers the box, leaving access to the inside of the box. So the 4" box is totally concealed and you can't add any kind of plate or cover to it. It's tacky to take a box intended to go inside a wall and mount it to the outside of a wall. And then, it doesn't make sense to create a product that fits onto the front of one of these boxes, when there is no call for it.
For a professional look, the closest thing I can think of would be a 2 gang gray (black, white) weatherproof box with a flat cover plate made up by a metal shop, with holes that mate to the four screw holes used to mount outlets to the box. Steel, painted, would be the way to go.
I've seen some round boxes, about 6" in diameter, made for mounting cameras. These, too, would need a custom plate to mount that arm onto.
"That arm" might literally be a camera mounting arm. You'll have to have a physical interface made between the WAP and the arm's mounting configuration.
Backing up to the purpose at hand, just how directional are these WAPs? Will facing the street will make them gather significantly more information? How much interference or garbage information (garbage, from the point of view of the task) will be gathered from people inside the buildings, and from wifi systems inside the buildings or in nearby buildings?
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| Post 3 made on Wednesday June 15, 2016 at 14:36 |
Fred Harding Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | October 2001 3,430 |
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Maybe one of these? [Link: specotech.com]
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| Post 4 made on Wednesday June 15, 2016 at 16:41 |
4" Box cover with the 3/4" threaded ball joint used for hanging lights, then attach a 3/4" piece of rigid to it? Some ABS or something to cover it up and make it clean?
That's the best I've got!
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| Post 5 made on Wednesday June 15, 2016 at 18:11 |
GotGame Super Member |
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Speco WMA29DW
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| OP | Post 6 made on Thursday June 16, 2016 at 09:33 |
lippavisual Senior Member |
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Thanks for the suggestions guys and most of them are pretty much what I've come across myself.
These mounts need to have some sort of "move-ability" so that we can extend them out from the box and turn them towards the entrance.
We are trying to find the best option with the least amount of customization possible.
I wish we were brought on earlier on this project.
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| Post 7 made on Thursday June 16, 2016 at 09:45 |
Mario Loyal Member |
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Contact local metal fabrication shop. You'd be surprised how quickly and 'inexpensively' something like that could be. Talk to few different ones -- in person.
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| Post 8 made on Thursday June 16, 2016 at 09:45 |
How about having a piece of signage made up, with room inside for you to point the WAP. [img]  [/img]
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| Post 9 made on Thursday June 16, 2016 at 11:44 |
imt Long Time Member |
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Not clear if this is mounted inside pointed to the exterior or physically outside. If Inside, can't you just use a smaller LCD Articulating arm?
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| OP | Post 10 made on Thursday June 16, 2016 at 12:05 |
lippavisual Senior Member |
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These will be mounted inside, facing the outdoors. Looks like we may be going with this, [Link: vaddio.com]Providing that the end of arm pivots 90 degrees, I'm calling them to verify. LCD mounts may be to big/bulky for this install and not sure if the wall mount portions would even fit on a 4" square box cover.
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| Post 11 made on Thursday June 16, 2016 at 12:43 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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I presume the WAPs are directional, though you have not responded to my question about that. If they're not, why all the positioning detail?
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| OP | Post 12 made on Friday June 17, 2016 at 08:51 |
lippavisual Senior Member |
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On June 16, 2016 at 12:43, Ernie Gilman said...
I presume the WAPs are directional, though you have not responded to my question about that. If they're not, why all the positioning detail? These are indoor waps. They radiate the signal down and out. In order to penetrate the best signal to the street, they need to be pointed to the street.
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