Its the M80-C3.

CNET rates it as pretty good.

Does anyone know if this series has discrete power and input?

uggh.

Oh, well if CNet says its pretty good, it must be!


Every vizio I've had the displeasure of viewing over the past 2-3 years has responded to the same discrete code set just fine.

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If you are not liking the sale. Then why even have it on your store's shelf to be sold?

KOT

Isn't the bigger question why are they selling TV's in the first place? I understand selling a high end Planar or something where there's actual profit to be made but cheap TV's??

Sometimes you MUST sell the TV in order to keep the client, and not have some "Geeks" taking away a nice deal.

Are you selling the TV as in going to Costco and buying one, or do you buy by the thousands like Costco does?

Run of the mill TVs are commodities these days. The first commodities we hear about in life are generally things like pork bellies and rice, that is, things that are neither exclusive nor special. In order to make the point that Costco TVs are blah crap, I refer to the TV market these days as "commodities, and like commodities their prices are basically by the pound."

Customers get it but don't want to pay more anyway.

IT's not hard- some clients want to do business with us and not let the Geeks go in and mess things up. I (and others) tell people that they can get the TV from BB or Costco and I'll install it, but any problems with the equipment I don't sell are dealt with at T&M rates plus parts and accessories. It works well. If they want me to pick up the equipment because BB can't deliver it soon enough, I charge for that, too.

One of our distributors has them.

I was considering selling it on this job to keep the client. We sell TV's as part of our service to our client. I would rather have a truck show up with a TV then send a client or a tech off to buy one at BB, Costco etc.

I personally think its crazy to send your client to a Big Box competitor like BB you never know what they might come out of there with. 80% of our business is new construction and we control the entire process electrically.

As for CNET reviews they are at least done by isf guys, Kevin Miller trained me so I kind of trust his reviews although I dont think he is there anymore. David Katzmaier is also isf and probably learned from Kevin as well.

On this client all I care about is the function of the system, and keeping my guys busy. I'm sure you guys can just throw out a 25k sale because the client wants quantity over quality, but we are not in that position quite yet.

So why not Samsung, Sony, or LG? I wouldn't do it.

No locals repair shop can work on them. I'm not sure if this has changed at all but that is the reason I avoid them.

I've never had an issue but I also tell my customers, only the TV! No cables, no warranties, no mounts. I've never had an issue.

Needed a 20-22" TV for kitchen counter so I took my laptop into Best Buy to see which ones had power/input discretes. Vizio was the only one that did, not even Samsung!

It has changed. Some.

they would have spent $26k ;)

I sold some Sony XBR sets to a client a couple of months ago. We installed them along with an hdmi matrix and total control. The client went into the Sony store where he was told hoe he could use the smart tv functions to watch Netflix among other things. We already tried selling him on Roku where he said, "we don't need any of that, we never use it"

Well, since the genius at the Sony store said it can be done, it can be done. Client went home and put the tv's on the wifi network. That pushed a brand new update that actually changed some of the IR codes. We get a call that it isn't working, they can't watch TV, he can't get the Netflix to work, he wants to hear it out of his speakers...

All cause Mr sony said it can be done with what he already had. The client didn't want to spend the extra money for a roku, hdmi audio extractor and some labor/programming to make it work PROPERLY, but reluctantly did after MUCH explaining. I walked away with the feeling that the clients thinks I don't know what I'm talking about while he thinks the retail sales guy at the store who has no experience other then selling knows it all.

So while I don't want to sell tv's, I don't want them going to these stores where, much like the cable guys, they clearly know more then we do.