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*#%!ing cheap @$$ manufacturer
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| Topic: | *#%!ing cheap @$$ manufacturer This thread has 16 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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| Post 1 made on Thursday October 2, 2014 at 15:02 |
Fins Elite Member |
Joined: Posts: | June 2007 11,621 |
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So I get cat5 to DB9 adapters from a manufacturer. I open the newest ones that I've received and realize that instead of being screen printed with descriptions like male, female, and null, they now have stickers. But the stickers only have model numbers on them.
Yeah, the techs in the field are going to memorize 7 digit numbers to know which piece is the right one!
WTF?
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Civil War reenactment is LARPing for people with no imagination.
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| Post 2 made on Thursday October 2, 2014 at 15:06 |
fcwilt Senior Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2003 1,283 |
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Put your own labels on them.
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Regards, Frederick C. Wilt |
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| Post 3 made on Thursday October 2, 2014 at 15:09 |
Mario Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | November 2006 5,680 |
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Yeah, that sucks. Did you let them have it?
Who do you use?
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| OP | Post 4 made on Thursday October 2, 2014 at 15:11 |
Fins Elite Member |
Joined: Posts: | June 2007 11,621 |
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I haven't called them yet. I'm venting before I call someone
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Civil War reenactment is LARPing for people with no imagination.
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| Post 5 made on Thursday October 2, 2014 at 16:00 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 30,076 |
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That's a good idea as someone here might or might have had a solution. Probably somebody in China decided to save $0.0003 per unit by changing the designation. Looking at a couple of things in my junk box I have to say "cool, so they have a designation, do they?"
This mfr (you can expand that to either word you like) should be told that everything electronic from the tiniest resistors on up, which can externally appear to be one of many different things, has a designation customized to its users. That last bit is to get around "sure, you have to memorize all those numbers."
Also be smart: see if maybe the last two or three digits, alone, might distinguish the different parts that you use.
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A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything. "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw |
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| Post 6 made on Thursday October 2, 2014 at 19:47 |
Ranger Home Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | June 2007 3,476 |
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Well name the manufacturer!
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| OP | Post 7 made on Thursday October 2, 2014 at 20:28 |
Fins Elite Member |
Joined: Posts: | June 2007 11,621 |
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I looked at some of the older ones when I got back to the shop tonight. They had the sticker with the model number also, along with the printed description. Maybe I should be glad they didn't get rid of both
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Civil War reenactment is LARPing for people with no imagination.
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| Post 8 made on Thursday October 2, 2014 at 22:05 |
FreddyFreeloader Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | April 2004 3,242 |
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If you do those a lot, sometime try terminating your own DB9 with m/f kits and closed barrel crimper and pins. Clean.
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| Post 9 made on Thursday October 2, 2014 at 22:09 |
SysIntegration Advanced Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2013 895 |
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On October 2, 2014 at 15:02, Fins said...
So I get cat5 to DB9 adapters from a manufacturer. I open the newest ones that I've received and realize that instead of being screen printed with descriptions like male, female, and null, they now have stickers. But the stickers only have model numbers on them.
Yeah, the techs in the field are going to memorize 7 digit numbers to know which piece is the right one!
WTF? Electronics: you get what you pay for. I either use the ones from savant or from elan. 90% of the time they work every time. (plusI've pinned them all out myself, 568a and 568b and just have a list somewhere in case). It's not like you couldn't crack the db9 portion off to see the 8 colored wires beneath, right?
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| Post 10 made on Thursday October 2, 2014 at 22:19 |
Mac Burks (39) Elite Member |
Joined: Posts: | May 2007 17,501 |
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I pin them myself. Whenever i order from some place new i test pins and make a chart so i can compare it with the last batch. From time to time the pinout/color changes.
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| Post 11 made on Thursday October 2, 2014 at 22:19 |
jimstolz76 Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2007 5,607 |
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| Post 12 made on Friday October 3, 2014 at 01:30 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 30,076 |
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My new favorite quote: On October 2, 2014 at 22:09, SysIntegration said...
90% of the time they work every time.
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A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything. "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw |
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| Post 13 made on Friday October 3, 2014 at 06:25 |
brent mccall Long Time Member |
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Not always your suppliers fault (in fact rarely). China will change things (for their benefit or just because) and not notify their pardner.
We are dealing with an issue now where they changed the fuze mfgr. in a product. Same electrical specs but ever so slightly smaller in diameter, this new (smaller) diameter does not fit as tight in the clamps and will allow for arcing which will damage the terminal.
So for a possible savings of .0000 something or just because their supply ran dry and they bought what was easily available (we don't know yet) we had to issue a stop shipping order until we get the correct fuze.
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Brent McCall Envy, it is a dirty emotion. |
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| Post 14 made on Friday October 3, 2014 at 08:14 |
SysIntegration Advanced Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2013 895 |
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On October 3, 2014 at 01:30, Ernie Gilman said...
My new favorite quote: I only say that because I was using a db9 to rj45 (straight) to connect my chasis to a honeywell security panel, as both the panel and the chasis called for that connector, only to find out that I need a null modem. Fortunately, It was an easy swap, as Savant makes db9 adaptors in four flavors. My new favorite quote: We can't give you a good answer, or maybe any, without the make and model of everything.
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| OP | Post 15 made on Friday October 3, 2014 at 09:17 |
Fins Elite Member |
Joined: Posts: | June 2007 11,621 |
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On October 2, 2014 at 22:09, SysIntegration said...
I either use the ones from savant or from elan.
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