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Ideas for connecting lights to 12 volt + trigger from pool controller?
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Post 1 made on Monday March 17, 2014 at 16:37
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I have a client with a Zodiac pool controller that has 4 auxiliary outputs he can turn on and off from his iPhone app.

Is there any way to use a relay to turn on his 120 volt lights in his pool house?

Thanks.
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Post 2 made on Monday March 17, 2014 at 17:13
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does the zodiac device give a dry (no voltage) contact when engaged?
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OP | Post 3 made on Monday March 17, 2014 at 18:51
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On March 17, 2014 at 17:13, Fred Harding said...
does the zodiac device give a dry (no voltage) contact when engaged?

When the "aux" is on there is +12 volts DC and off 0 volts.
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Post 4 made on Monday March 17, 2014 at 20:00
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I do not see why not. I know the Pentair controllers have aux relays too that you can use for whatever the hell you want to control. If you have confirmed the +12V when the relay is on and 0V when it is off, it sounds like you know what to do next. :)
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Post 5 made on Tuesday March 18, 2014 at 01:26
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Not only is there a way to do it, using a relay is the way to do it.
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OP | Post 6 made on Tuesday March 18, 2014 at 08:29
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On March 18, 2014 at 01:26, Ernie Gilman said...
Not only is there a way to do it, using a relay is the way to do it.

I was thinking a relay but wanted to create a circuit similar to a pair of 3 way switches with the relay being switch #1 and the light switch being #2.

We can rewire the switch to 3 way and I assume I could wire the relay in a similar fashion...
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Post 7 made on Tuesday March 18, 2014 at 13:16
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Why are we at Post 6, discussing a relay, when that's not what you want to do? You really want to

On March 18, 2014 at 08:29, william david design said...
...create a circuit similar to a pair of 3 way switches with the relay being switch #1 and the light switch being #2.

We can rewire the switch to 3 way and I assume I could wire the relay in a similar fashion...

My first answer was completely vague because the thread title was completely vague. Now HERE is a topic!

I think you can do this if the command that controls the relay is a toggle. If it's an ON and an OFF, the second switch in the three-way circuit will make that be OFF (via the ON command) and ON (via the OFF command) whenever the second switch has been thrown.

If the controller won't simply toggle, you'll never know the status of the controller so you can switch to the other status, unless the second switch can be seen at all times. If it'll toggle, you'll know by looking at the lights whether you want to send a toggle command to it.

The relay must be double throw. Look at the schematic of the relay and of a 3-way wiring setup to see why.
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OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 08:32
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On March 18, 2014 at 13:16, Ernie Gilman said...
Why are we at Post 6, discussing a relay, when that's not what you want to do? You really want to

My first answer was completely vague because the thread title was completely vague. Now HERE is a topic!

I think you can do this if the command that controls the relay is a toggle. If it's an ON and an OFF, the second switch in the three-way circuit will make that be OFF (via the ON command) and ON (via the OFF command) whenever the second switch has been thrown.

If the controller won't simply toggle, you'll never know the status of the controller so you can switch to the other status, unless the second switch can be seen at all times. If it'll toggle, you'll know by looking at the lights whether you want to send a toggle command to it.

The relay must be double throw. Look at the schematic of the relay and of a 3-way wiring setup to see why.

Thanks for the tip.
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Post 9 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 08:37
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It can absolutely be done.
As Ernie said, you'll need a double throw relay if you want/need it to function as a 3-way.
OP | Post 10 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 08:59
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On March 19, 2014 at 08:37, Mario said...
It can absolutely be done.
As Ernie said, you'll need a double throw relay if you want/need it to function as a 3-way.

Nice diagram...
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