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Post 1 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 15:45
Mario
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Using regular decora keystone jacks what kind of labels do you use for each jack?


 

Since I already have LabelMark by Brady, does anyone know if Brady has any adhesive labels that can be printed on PC and placed below/above jacks?
It would make it very simple to export Excel wire locations and import them into LabelMark software. 


I know I could use commercial wall plates that have the label slot built in, but how do you label each port when you have odd number of ports like 3?





Background: Most of my work is in residential and no one would dream of cluttering already "ugly" LV boxes with labels.
Also, in residential if there is equipment change, I get called in to "make it work" and I have all the info in my plans, drawings, etc., so it's a non issue.

In commercial I'm the LV guy, but they also have a "phone guy", an "IT guy" and a "Dental Equipment people". All of whom need to know which plug on a wall goes to which patch panel port.
Post 2 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 16:16
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I wish we could buy label sheets with printable decals for wall plates.

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Post 3 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 16:33
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If you can't find labels you could do a color code.
Blue = data
White = phone
Red = ....
OP | Post 4 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 19:40
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Ed, I wish it was that easy.

Today, as it stands (and this is brand new office with brand new LV build) ports are provisioned is as follows:
Port1= Data
Port2= Phone
Port3= Aux (printer, copier, CC Machine) 

Port3 could be Network or phone depending on CC Machine type, and that's just one of the scenarios.

On counter across from reception, there will be printers, scanners, etc.
In that case most will be data, but that might change.

BTW, they might go to VIOP in few years, so that Port2 will no longer be phone but data (in that it will connect to network switch and not the PBX).

That's why color code doesn't work for me.

My labeling scheme accounts for changing technology by utilizing XXX-xx-X scheme, where I have "Room Name - Drop # (box) - cable within that drop).

They are all connected to patch panel in A/V closet and can be re-purposed at any time just by moving the patch cable (in A/V closet). 

What I need is a way for phone guy two years from now to walk up to room 112, at 2nd drop, and look at 3rd jack and see that this is 112-02-3 and it goes to 117-01-72 (117=A/V room, 01=Patch Panel01, 72=Port72 on that patch panel).
 
OP | Post 5 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 19:44
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On November 23, 2013 at 16:16, Mac Burks (39) said...
I wish we could buy label sheets with printable decals for wall plates.


Mac, I like that.
I will even take just the right side of that label.
I know I can probably use Rhino labels in patch panel mode (but then text would be on it's side). I might even be able to fool it to print the right way.
That however would be a manual and tedious process.
I already have everything in excel, with "from-->to" columns, etc. I could simply filter things by CAT6, export two columns to Brady LabelMark and print 200+ different labels in one shot. 

I'll call Brady people on Monday; surely they have a label with height/width that will suit my needs. 
Post 6 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 19:58
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On November 23, 2013 at 16:33, Zohan said...
If you can't find labels you could do a color code.
Blue = data
White = phone
Red = ....

That's great if A) everyone remembers, B) everyone who learned originally stays, C) new hires are given this information and D) everyone looks at the jacks when they have a label and actually reads it. I got a trouble call about phones not working and it turns out that someone plugged something into a phone jack that wasn't a phone. Didn't read the label.
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Post 7 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 22:16
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What if you used 6 port plates
Stick your labels you already use on a blank insert to the side of your ports and trim with a razor knife before inserting into plate.

Easy to update if needed because you only effect one of three labels.
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Post 8 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 22:30
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On November 23, 2013 at 19:40, Mario said...
My labeling scheme accounts for changing technology by utilizing XXX-xx-X scheme, where I have "Room Name - Drop # (box) - cable within that drop).

They are all connected to patch panel in A/V closet and can be re-purposed at any time just by moving the patch cable (in A/V closet). 

What I need is a way for phone guy two years from now to walk up to room 112, at 2nd drop, and look at 3rd jack and see that this is 112-02-3 and it goes to 117-01-72 (117=A/V room, 01=Patch Panel01, 72=Port72 on that patch panel).

Curious why are you using 1 label for the in-room and a different one at the head end? I would think that adds some unnecessary confusion.
Post 9 made on Sunday November 24, 2013 at 01:36
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On November 23, 2013 at 16:16, Mac Burks (39) said...
I wish we could buy label sheets with printable decals for wall plates.


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OP | Post 10 made on Sunday November 24, 2013 at 08:09
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On November 23, 2013 at 22:30, PeterN said...
Curious why are you using 1 label for the in-room and a different one at the head end? I would think that adds some unnecessary confusion.

Wires are labeled the same on both sides.
If I could make wall labels, I could not only label what the wire ID is (112-02-3), but could also label what patch panel port it corresponds to: 117-01-72 (117=A/V room, 01=Patch Panel01, 72=Port72 on that patch panel).
Post 11 made on Sunday November 24, 2013 at 16:39
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Depends on the customer and their requests but, for something like that I would do all different colored jacks with one number label at the top. Then in the closet end, use snap-in patch panels with the different colored jacks, a patch panel for each color. Pretty simple.

Then they can use whatever jacks they want to use to plug something in.
Post 12 made on Monday November 25, 2013 at 14:25
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Guys you can readily (which is not necessarily synonomous with inexpensively) have laser or inkjet printable label stock custom die cut to your specs. Mario, your overlay label could be set up at least 10 up and maybe 18 up on an 8 1/2" x 11 sheet - if course you'd need to manage the software side of bulk printing.

As an example, I've used www.rippedsheets.com for another application. Their 102251 is a waterpoof matte white poly stock with a very strong 3M adhesive on it, color laser prints beautifully on it.

Hope this helps
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Post 13 made on Monday November 25, 2013 at 14:56
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[Link: snapav.com]

These work great but the Midi size does not match the regular plug plates.
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Post 14 made on Monday November 25, 2013 at 16:18
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Sheet printable port labels - white or colors (.doc template)

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