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Post 61 made on Friday November 22, 2013 at 10:53
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On November 22, 2013 at 10:51, Ranger Home said...
Going 60 in a 55 isn't legal either. I say take your chances.

How hard would it be for a customer to PROVE you got into their system if all the sudden it didn't work? They NEED you now. And its VERY simple, pay the bill and I will come fix it.

what if the system controls lighting and security and you messing with it caused bodily harm?  that isn't the same as going 60 in a 55.  i'm just saying it would be fun to mess with someone like this, but CYA.
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Post 62 made on Friday November 22, 2013 at 15:21
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On November 22, 2013 at 10:05, Duct Tape said...
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but you still trespassed.

i'm not saying that i am against what you did, just that it isn't legal.

I think we can all agree that it's awesome that he got the client to pay his bill by doing this. But we also have to all agree that it's basically hacking something thats in his home.

Right and wrong both have a dog in the fight. He should pay his bills etc etc. but him owing money doesn't give us the right to essentially go into his home and alter/remove/destroy whats there.

On November 22, 2013 at 10:51, Ranger Home said...
Going 60 in a 55 isn't legal either. I say take your chances.

Plenty of people get tickets for it also. I got a ticket for doing 26 in a 25.

How hard would it be for a customer to PROVE you got into their system if all the sudden it didn't work? They NEED you now. And its VERY simple, pay the bill and I will come fix it.

He would only need to find another firm who would look at the time stamp on the file loaded on the processor.

The quote below is why it matters. This isn't the same as getting a $50-1000 ticket. We aren't always just talking about home theaters. Our clients wouldn't be able to control their lighting system without it's keypads/touch panels because there are no switches.

On November 22, 2013 at 10:53, Duct Tape said...
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what if the system controls lighting and security and you messing with it caused bodily harm?  that isn't the same as going 60 in a 55.  i'm just saying it would be fun to mess with someone like this, but CYA.
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Post 63 made on Friday November 22, 2013 at 17:53
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A past dealer I know did this to a customer.....

Because of the safety factor and legality...... the lights were turned on in all hallways stairways and point of entry/exit.... and left on.

Not that this was correct but it was a nicer way of doing this to customer x.
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Post 64 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 09:49
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And Kevin smartly didn't mess with the lighting. Screwing with the TV was the perfect solution.
OP | Post 65 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 14:52
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Got the check!
I emailed the husband last Tuesday and said I haven't heard back I just wanted to open the lines on communication.

I called today and left a nice voice mail . I get a text message 10 mins later saying the check was sent yesterday and I lost them as a client and any recommendations because I would not compromise and I was not there for 5 hours.
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Post 66 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 15:21
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You got the check or you got a message that it's in the mail? Big difference in these situations. If you got it, great and don't lose sleep over the lost repeat business or referrals...they would never occur anyway.
Post 67 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 16:42
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Lost referrals...?
He is a D-Bag, and like Tweeterguy said was never going to refer you anyway....

After your check clears, send him a letter thanking him for a lesson learned and how you will be changing your deposit and payment policy, to avoid dealing with trash like him.

Overall it sounds like you were trying to help out and get things done for him on the short notice. Maybe / maybe not the image size was on you but you gave them options. Everything after that is on him.

Everyone makes mistakes, as long as you stand behind it and offer a resolution it should never had come to this.

Hopefully he meets Mr. Karma

Last edited by Zohan on November 23, 2013 16:49.
Post 68 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 17:32
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On November 23, 2013 at 16:42, Zohan said...

Hopefully he meets Mr. Karma

You mean Mrs Karma. She is a bitch.
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Post 69 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 17:58
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He saved you the trouble of firing him.
Post 70 made on Saturday November 23, 2013 at 21:36
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don't turn off their security funtions and lighting. No tv, they will pay their bill. Put it in writing the system lose some functionality until payment is received in full. Problem solved, even legal.
Post 71 made on Sunday November 24, 2013 at 03:03
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BRUCEWAYNE, please update us when the check actually clears the bank.

Wouldn't compromise, jeeeezus H you know what!

Bust your balls to help a D-Bag and you get a T-Bag!

Hope he get MRS. Karma on her monthly!
Post 72 made on Sunday November 24, 2013 at 07:06
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The small claims court suggestion is a good idea. They will probably pay up before it happens.
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Post 73 made on Sunday November 24, 2013 at 07:45
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On November 23, 2013 at 14:52, brucewayne said...
Got the check!
I emailed the husband last Tuesday and said I haven't heard back I just wanted to open the lines on communication.

I called today and left a nice voice mail . I get a text message 10 mins later saying the check was sent yesterday and I lost them as a client and any recommendations because I would not compromise and I was not there for 5 hours.

Make a copy of the check.
Take the check to HIS bank and cash it.
His bank will be able to confirm availability of funds and give you cash/M.O. on the spot.
If the check can't clear, that's a form of check/payment fraud and serious federal business. Without any delays take his ass to court.
OP | Post 74 made on Sunday November 24, 2013 at 10:58
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I got the check at 3 on saturday . My bank was open till 4 . I already had other checks to deposit ( it was a good week ). So if they cancel or it bounces . I will love to make them look bad in court.
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Post 75 made on Sunday November 24, 2013 at 11:00
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oh my, can you imagine all the business you are going to lose in referrals from this clown! hahahaha. Always cracks me up when pion idiot customers think they hold the key to your success as a business, well he taught you! LOL. Yup, he's an azz.
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