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Post 16 made on Monday August 19, 2013 at 20:42
jcbremotes
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Recently configured 3 Ubiquiti unifi ap's for zero handoff roaming with no issues so far. Using wifi analyzer app I roamed from AP to AP. The ap showed only 1 ap, and no evidence via mac address or anything of a handoff other than signal strength. It looked like cell tower handoff on a phone. Signal strength indicator showed decreasing number of bars until the switch, then back to full strength.

[Link: dl.ubnt.com]


I attended a webinar on their features they hosted several months ago. In it they discussed multi-level deployments in dorms, hotels, etc. Their recommendation was to use the low powered AP's in numbers rather than the longer range models. Their testing indicated it worked better because of the lower powered handsets being used. Although they can broadcast signals to a distant handset, the weaker handset signal was often weaker and performance negatively impacted as a result.

Sounds a lot like cellular pico cell deployment.

"A picocell is a small cellular basestation typically covering a small area, such as in-building (offices, shopping malls, train stations, stock exchanges, etc.), or more recently in-aircraft. In cellular networks, picocells are typically used to extend coverage to indoor areas where outdoor signals do not reach well, or to add network capacity in areas with very dense phone usage, such as train stations. Picocells provide coverage and capacity in areas difficult or expensive to reach using the more traditional Macrocell approach.[1]
In cellular wireless networks, such as GSM, the picocell base station[2] is typically a low cost, small (typically the size of a ream of A4 paper), reasonably simple unit that connects to a Base Station Controller (BSC). Multiple picocell 'heads' connect to each BSC: the BSC performs radio resource management and hand-over functions, and aggregates data to be passed to the Mobile Switching Centre (MSC) and/or the Gateway GPRS Support Node (GGSN).
Connectivity between the picocell heads and the BSC typically consists of in-building wiring. Although originally deployed systems (1990s) used PDH links such as E1/T1 links, more recent systems use Ethernet cabling. Aircraft use satellite links.[3]
More recent work has developed the concept towards a head unit containing not only a picocell, but also many of the functions of the BSC and some of the MSC. This form of picocell is sometimes called an access point base station or 'enterprise femtocell'. In this case, the unit contains all the capability required to connect directly to the Internet, without the need for the BSC/MSC infrastructure. This is potentially a more cost effective approach.
Picocells offer many of the benefits of "small cells" (similar to femtocells) in that they improve data throughput for mobile users and increase capacity in the mobile network. In particular, the integration of picocells with macrocells through a Heterogeneous Network can be useful in seamless handoffs and increased mobile data capacity.[4]"
Post 17 made on Monday August 19, 2013 at 21:52
edizzle
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i just cant get past the server aspect of a unifi install. with ruckus, i put in a zone director and multiple access points and never go back!! (for wifi/internet problems)
I love supporting product that supports me!
Post 18 made on Monday August 19, 2013 at 22:45
77W
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I love Ruckus just as much as anybody, but I have more UniFi installs out there and they don't give me any issues, ever. Some are at sites many hours from our office, and I don't lose a wink of sleep. It's an excellent BUDGET WiFi solution.
Post 19 made on Monday August 19, 2013 at 23:41
jcbremotes
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According to Ubiquiti, the controller software does not need to run after install unless you are using guest portal.

I haven't done Ruckus but the zone directors appear to be specialized appliance like firewalls or intrusion detection or file server or vpn, but it provides wap controller functionality.
Post 20 made on Tuesday August 20, 2013 at 21:40
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On August 19, 2013 at 11:32, TRCGroup said...
Once helped out on a job where a big new Luxul system was just installed, made me a bit worried. We were constantly losing Internet connection but were still on the network. Replaced two modems with no success. After back and forth with Luxul, we find out that the newly released system had a glitch that prevented the Internet from passing through over WiFi, and that they were working on a patch for it. WTF?!?! Needless to say, the Luxul came out right away and was returned.

Luxul model numbers?

Last edited by davenport on August 20, 2013 22:49.
Post 21 made on Wednesday August 21, 2013 at 11:00
fcwilt
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On August 19, 2013 at 21:52, edizzle said...
i just cant get past the server aspect of a unifi install. with ruckus, i put in a zone director and multiple access points and never go back!! (for wifi/internet problems)

Assuming that piece of software DOES need to run 24/7 what's the difference between that and running firmware on a dedicated device like the zone director?
Regards, Frederick C. Wilt
Post 22 made on Wednesday August 21, 2013 at 16:49
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The Unifi software doesn't need to run after setup and configuration. I'm not sure about it running if a guest network is setup as I've never needed to. I haven't done a Unifi system in a few months so haven't been able to test the roaming capabilities.

My favorites are Aruba IAP's. no controller is needed for seamless handoffs. The configuration runs in the first ap that is setup on the project. After the initial setup, any other ap you add to the project, gets its configuration from the first ap. You can have an extremely robust wifi network up and running in no time.

Also, the Aruba 105's are priced right too, compared to a few others I've used with "less features".
Post 23 made on Thursday August 22, 2013 at 07:33
noot98
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We have been using tons of Netgear R6300 as routers and WAPs, so far has been a huge problem solver.
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