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Lowballed Control System Issue
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| Topic: | Lowballed Control System Issue This thread has 44 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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| Post 1 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 12:21 |
Mr. Stanley Elite Member |
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We carry 4 of the major brands of Automation Systems. With three of these companies we don't run into too much of a problem on getting low-balled.
One of these systems (and I won't say publicly who they are) we are getting seriously under - bid on all of the time. Are any of you guys in other parts of the country having similar issues?
PM me if you can. If that is the case, I think we should contact this supplier.
thanks
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"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger."
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| Post 2 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 12:39 |
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| Post 3 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 14:31 |
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Why don't you join IP so you don't have to have these awkward conversations over a public form?
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"Just when I thought you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!" |
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| OP | Post 4 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 14:40 |
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On August 9, 2013 at 14:31, drewski300 said...
Why don't you join IP so you don't have to have these awkward conversations over a public form? I was going to join a few years back, and got a little push back from some of the guys so I decided to pass.
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"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger."
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| Post 5 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 15:11 |
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Or create an anonymous user account and drop some names already. :)
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| Post 6 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 17:53 |
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Dude, I get under bid on URC and RTI all the time. I explain to the client that I am not more expensive, I am the best. I do the job right, and follow through all the way to the end. I think because URC and RTI are available through distribution, there is no proper training, and leash on these idiots.
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| Post 7 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 18:03 |
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Use C4 and blow up their place sky high :-)
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| Post 8 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 18:04 |
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On August 9, 2013 at 14:40, Mr. Stanley said...
I was going to join a few years back, and got a little push back from some of the guys so I decided to pass. Bruce, who gave you push back? Now, invitation to IP party where there are waterlines is a different case. Also, this year CEDIA is in Denver, not much chance to sink a boat.
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| OP | Post 9 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 18:07 |
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On August 9, 2013 at 17:53, vwpower44 said...
Dude, I get under bid on URC and RTI all the time. I explain to the client that I am not more expensive, I am the best. I do the job right, and follow through all the way to the end. I think because URC and RTI are available through distribution, there is no proper training, and leash on these idiots. Yeah, I've got the "we're better" - We complete the job rap down pretty well... But one company we go against on these systems bills out their labor @35$ an hour, and drop price on the equipment. That's what I was charging 20 years ago when I was on my own!
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"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger."
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| Post 10 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 18:24 |
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On August 9, 2013 at 18:07, Mr. Stanley said...
Yeah, I've got the "we're better" - We complete the job rap down pretty well... But one company we go against on these systems bills out their labor @35$ an hour, and drop price on the equipment. That's what I was charging 20 years ago when I was on my own! Wow, I have no idea how anyone could still be in business doing as you stated.
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| Post 11 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 18:41 |
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On August 9, 2013 at 18:07, Mr. Stanley said...
But one company we go against on these systems bills out their labor @35$ an hour, and drop price on the equipment.| Crazy.....how long have they been in business?
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| Post 12 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 18:49 |
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On August 9, 2013 at 18:24, chardero said...
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Wow, I have no idea how anyone could still be in business doing as you stated. Because they are not in business. No way. No licensing, no insurance, no registered business, therefore not paying taxes.
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| Post 13 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 19:10 |
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On August 9, 2013 at 18:49, goldenzrule said...
Because they are not in business. No way. No licensing, no insurance, no registered business, therefore not paying taxes. I would bet this is right......not that the average consumer cares
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| Post 14 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 20:10 |
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Tell the customer to please use this person, but keep your card handy to call and fix in the very near future. No one can stay in business at that price with no profit on equipment.
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| Post 15 made on Friday August 9, 2013 at 20:46 |
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On August 9, 2013 at 20:10, TouchCommander said...
Tell the customer to please use this person, but keep your card handy to call and fix in the very near future. No one can stay in business at that price with no profit on equipment. He can afford to stay in "business" because its not his full time gig. He is doing it on the side. Pretty much every "company" you come across charging that rate is just doing it on the side. Either an installer for a company doing installs occasionally at night or on the weekends, or an IT guy doing it on the side. I've seen a few IT guys claiming to "do what I do". They show up in a Yaris with a briefcase with a screw driver and a RJ45 crimper.
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