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So, my buddy sez, check out these...
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| Topic: | So, my buddy sez, check out these ICRealtime cameras! This thread has 15 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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| Post 1 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 03:28 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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And he gives me a URL starting with 192. And it doesn't work.
I don't have Chrome but I used IE8, and nothing. Of course I added the http:// to it, and nothing.
It's his impression that you can walk up to a computer and put in that URL and see the system. I'm wondering if he installed some software on his computer and forgot about it, though I can't see how that would affect IE reaching a URL.
He used the same URL and was looking at the cameras, then he disconnected and it still did not work for me.
What can you suggest? TIA
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| Post 2 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 03:44 |
Zohan Super Member |
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192.xx is the ip address of the internal network, as if you were on site. If you WERE on site, then you need a colon and port number at the end of the ip address. If you were trying to view remotely you need the wan address and then also the colon and port number. Assuming all else is set up properly....
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| Post 3 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 05:10 |
Mario Loyal Member |
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Ernie, like Ed stated, most likely your device was not connected to same network. 192.168.x.x is local network only, and if both of you were at his house when you were trying this, I would suspect that:
a. He was on hardwired LAN or wireless trusted SSID b. His router is setup to allow traffic based on his MAC address (and you're not on the 'trusted' list)
Where you were: a. not connected to hardwired connection (or you did not reboot your device, so you didn't get local IP from router) b. Your wireless was disabled/disconnected c. You were using 3G for Internet access, which is WAN (and not LAN) d. You were on his Guest SSID WAP connection
Based on some of this feedback we can assist you better.
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| Post 4 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 05:11 |
Mario Loyal Member |
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The first thing you want to try is ping'ing the IP. If you can't PING (reach) the device you're trying to connect to, there is no point into looking at programs, usernames or passwords.
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| Post 5 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 06:53 |
Total Control Remotes Super Member |
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Also, some camera viewing on the network requires an add-in. I know that Wirepath from SNAP is only compatible (technically) with IE and requires an add-in and certain files to be present in order to view. I don't do much ICRT, but I have heard very good things about it.
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| Post 6 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 07:11 |
Hasbeen Loyal Member |
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On May 15, 2013 at 03:28, Ernie Gilman said...
And he gives me a URL starting with 192. And it doesn't work.
What did it end with? We can't help you if you don't give us all of the information? Did it end in something lower than .255? I don't have Chrome but I used IE8, and nothing. Of course I added the http:// to it, and nothing. What does Chrome have to do with anything? Was your buddy on Chrome? Is his bike made out of chrome? You've said nothing about Chrome in relation to your buddy being able to view the ICrealtime cameras, So why do you mention it to us? To confuse us? It's his impression that you can walk up to a computer and put in that URL and see the system. I'm wondering if he installed some software on his computer and forgot about it, though I can't see how that would affect IE reaching a URL.
He could walk, stroll, or run. If he's in the home or business, he's on the network, your friend is correct. He's incorrect if he leaves that premises or network and tries to do it. Unless, he's taken the proper measures to do so. He used the same URL and was looking at the cameras, then he disconnected and it still did not work for me.
Unless you were on the LAN Network, in the same premises. You can't use that ip address. That ip address, used on your network would give different results. What can you suggest? TIA Taking a computer networking class. LOL....That was fun.
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| Post 7 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 07:23 |
edizzle Loyal Member |
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On May 15, 2013 at 07:11, Hasbeen said...
| What did it end with? We can't help you if you don't give us all of the information? Did it end in something lower than .255?
What does Chrome have to do with anything? Was your buddy on Chrome? Is his bike made out of chrome? You've said nothing about Chrome in relation to your buddy being able to view the ICrealtime cameras, So why do you mention it to us? To confuse us?
| He could walk, stroll, or run. If he's in the home or business, he's on the network, your friend is correct. He's incorrect if he leaves that premises or network and tries to do it. Unless, he's taken the proper measures to do so.
| Unless you were on the LAN Network, in the same premises. You can't use that ip address. That ip address, used on your network would give different results.
Taking a computer networking class.
LOL....That was fun. fantastic!
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| Post 8 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 07:30 |
Impaqt RC Moderator |
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Sounds like his phone or whatever device he was on is on a VPN to his home.
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| Post 9 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 08:01 |
fonzanoon Active Member |
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On May 15, 2013 at 07:11, Hasbeen said...
| What did it end with? We can't help you if you don't give us all of the information? Did it end in something lower than .255?
What does Chrome have to do with anything? Was your buddy on Chrome? Is his bike made out of chrome? You've said nothing about Chrome in relation to your buddy being able to view the ICrealtime cameras, So why do you mention it to us? To confuse us?
| He could walk, stroll, or run. If he's in the home or business, he's on the network, your friend is correct. He's incorrect if he leaves that premises or network and tries to do it. Unless, he's taken the proper measures to do so.
| Unless you were on the LAN Network, in the same premises. You can't use that ip address. That ip address, used on your network would give different results.
Taking a computer networking class.
LOL....That was fun. You just made my day, thanks
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| Post 10 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 08:39 |
highfigh Loyal Member |
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On May 15, 2013 at 03:28, Ernie Gilman said...
And he gives me a URL starting with 192. And it doesn't work.
I don't have Chrome but I used IE8, and nothing. Of course I added the http:// to it, and nothing.
It's his impression that you can walk up to a computer and put in that URL and see the system. I'm wondering if he installed some software on his computer and forgot about it, though I can't see how that would affect IE reaching a URL.
He used the same URL and was looking at the cameras, then he disconnected and it still did not work for me.
What can you suggest? TIA Who set up his DVR and phone? Your friend doesn't understand what's happening when he accesses the DVR. First, a 192.xxx.xxx.xxx address is from his LAN, not the public IP address that's needed to access the DVR. Second, the only way to access the cameras is by opening at least one port in the router and the address used will be the public address with :80 or something. This is the Web port and it may work, but it may be blocked by the provider because this is where most hackers go into a network, so just about any other number can work as long as it's used throughout the setup (the router, DVR, software used for access, etc). There's little you can do to access the DVR unless you're already connected to his network or have the app set up in your phone/tablet.
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| Post 11 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 09:09 |
Indigo Select Member |
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ICRT now implemented DDNS. If you are outside of their network, class C IP definitely never get you connected.
Where is Ed? Please unleash your "Hire a Pro" monkey :)
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| OP | Post 12 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 11:35 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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I totally agree: giving answers like this is fun! On May 15, 2013 at 07:11, Hasbeen said...
| What did it end with? We can't help you if you don't give us all of the information? Did it end in something lower than .255? I did not tell you what it ended with because a) it was working at that moment between my buddy's house and the restaurant and b) I didn't want to come anywhere near being specific enough as to actually give it away. Here's the form of the address: 192.[single digit].[double digit].242:82 All the rest of this comes down to where you completely stopped just short of an actual answer: Unless, he's taken the proper measures to do so. And what, in general or specific terms, are those measures? That is indeed my question. Unless you were on the LAN Network, in the same premises. You can't use that ip address. That ip address, used on your network would give different results. Well, this entire topic starts with him being at home and connecting though he's on his network and not on the restaurant network. What are these "proper measures" you speak of? I know I sound as ignorant as I am here... but it's why I asked. Taking a computer networking class. Totally right: I haven't yet. LOL....That was fun. Agreed.
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| Post 13 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 15:13 |
Hasbeen Loyal Member |
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I was just poking fun. And I apologize if you already know this stuff, but here it is in lay terms. Imagine your LAN Network is your entire world and that world is in your home. If you type in 192.168.X.X. think of it as a street address. It'll take you somewhere in your world only (your house). If you type in 192.168.X.X and expect to leave your world you will be sorely disappointed because your 192.168.X.X or 10.X.X.X only exist in your world.(again your house). However, everyone has a 192.168.x.X or 10.1.X.X address in their individual worlds. But 192.168.1.103 in my house isn't the same as 192.168.1.103 in your house, because they're different worlds. So, if you're buddy says take a look at 192.168.x.x at his house, you can't because that's his world. Your worlds will never cross paths unless your send your information into space (the www.). In a nutshell, that's why you couldn't see it. I can't help you with setting up IC Realtime cameras, I'm just not familiar with them.
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| Post 14 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 16:47 |
Mario Loyal Member |
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Ernie, anytime you see 192.x.x.x or 10.x.x.x, you'll now now that it's talking about LAN (local area network) and not WAN (wide area network, or world wide network). While you're smart to not give complete WAN IP address, the local LAN addresses are fine to type out, because like Hasbeen said, it's local to premises and it doesn't give anything away. Think of those addresses or LAN in general as rooms in the house on the architectural plans. When your buddy connected to 192.168.1.242 (for example) within the house, it's like he pointed at room on the plans, lets say a kitchen. Now, if he gave you that address but you were looking at your house plans, your .242 may not be a kitchen, and even if it was, it's your kitchen and not his.
Now you told us that he did that remotely. In this case, he has his computer or another device "tunnel" thru the Internet (WAN), and connect to his house, usually by VPN. Once he established that tunnel, he's essentially at his house, and local addresses act as if he was there. It's like him calling the house and asking whoever answers the phone to connect him with the kitchen. Until you have his WAN IP (his phone number in my example), you can't connect to his house (you can't call the house and ask someone to connect you with the kitchen).
Gosh this is a lot of typing for what would be a 1 minute conversation over the phone. Well, not 1 minute once I start yapping, but still :-)
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| Post 15 made on Wednesday May 15, 2013 at 18:13 |
Indigo Select Member |
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Simply enter whatismyip.com or whatismyip.com if you are connected to LAN
ICRealtime has specific port on their cameras and DVR. I've never use freebie DDNS. I use DYNDNS, so I have the reason to bill my clients yearly.
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