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Using Philips Pronto database
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| Topic: | Using Philips Pronto database This thread has 8 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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| Post 1 made on Thursday May 9, 2013 at 03:10 |
Hi,
I'm trying to use the Philips pronto database in my home project. The only problem I have: I don't know how to convert back the IR codes to pronto hex format. I use the O1R_DATABASE_1AUG10 database from this site.
A sample code: EECF00F000BE0000FFFF00D90100007530E80D843BF286851BD8447FA574C22 73EA09FB2371AA40EBE1415D5ABC6B63791EA7C90C4447AC8D53711EF9E54 B8E6DE047F1E647F57D4C7B07D9AED4FFD4A6BF92495826490F4F55EC7731F 65688EB40AB6A9D3189E21EBBC599394F9E46CB2A9EB030A124DE2EF52273C 3D95C07407B3CDE3F2DC9B1F560319C4F75653BD4176C9A2EEC1C03086A0B 0BF5D7309ACCDBECD676B66D55089A76F261D8098030144730CF91D2A1C53 825B447737C4C55E03707BBFE1332EE46D4050FDDEE361EA3F401637604006 BAC83E425DCD45BB3089A1FCF5936780F29070C1869B17F100
I have no idea how to convert it back to hex format. Do you maybe know how it is encoded?
Thank you, Marcell
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| Post 2 made on Thursday May 9, 2013 at 04:22 |
gopronto Senior Member |
Joined: Posts: | April 2008 1,444 |
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Not possible , due to the encryption code , and there is only one person in the world that knows it.
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| OP | Post 3 made on Thursday May 9, 2013 at 11:44 |
Hi,
Do you maybe know that person? :)
I'm not really happy about this :( Is there any other way to have such a database with unencrypted database? Can I download another database from this site? I like to develop an universal remote application for PCs, but can not find any usable database... Can you maybe suggest something else? Thank you for your reply. BR, M.
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| Post 4 made on Thursday May 9, 2013 at 12:14 |
Mario Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | November 2006 5,680 |
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On May 9, 2013 at 11:44, Marcell said...
Hi,
Do you maybe know that person? :)
I'm not really happy about this :( Is there any other way to have such a database with unencrypted database? Can I download another database from this site? I like to develop an universal remote application for PCs, but can not find any usable database... Can you maybe suggest something else? Thank you for your reply. BR, M. Have you contacted O1R's owners? Really nice people and since you want to use their product, that would be a good place to start.
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| OP | Post 5 made on Thursday May 9, 2013 at 13:07 |
Hi Mario, Yes I did, waiting for the answers. I will not use it in public without the permission of the authors. Its now in an investigation phase :) BR, M. edit: btw do you maybe know some similar database, which is free / open source / not too expensive to buy? thx
Last edited by Marcell on May 9, 2013 14:13.
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| Post 6 made on Thursday May 9, 2013 at 20:58 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 30,076 |
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Marcell, you seem to be way out on the thin part of a tree limb, trying to work out how to get down safely. Or something like that.
Let me ask something: why are you on THAT tree, on THAT limb, doing THAT thing? In other words, please back up a couple of steps. What remote are you trying to use those codes with? What component are those codes for? We may be able to suggest another place to get the information you need, but what you have presented gives only one detail -- eight lines of encoded stuff.
What are the simpler facts?
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| Post 7 made on Friday May 10, 2013 at 08:29 |
cma Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | August 2003 3,044 |
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On May 9, 2013 at 20:58, Ernie Gilman said...
Marcell, What remote are you trying to use those codes with? What component are those codes for? We may be able to suggest another place to get the information you need, but what you have presented gives only one detail -- eight lines of encoded stuff. What are the simpler facts? He said this: " I like to develop an universal remote application for PCs," So.. yet another person is going to make another PC based remote control..
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| OP | Post 8 made on Friday May 10, 2013 at 11:53 |
@cma: You are right, I wasn't clear; to be more specific: I'm a single person (not a company), having some ideas regarding to IR remote control. I'm completely new in the low-level IR topic, but I'm a dev so I expect to have some out-of-the-box solutions for this as IR remote is a common thing (documentations, code databases available for anyone use for anything, free). I have a Samsung LCD TV and an old Daewoo to test the codes, but I like to use a big database (where I can get codes for these devices) containing other device codes. I like to use it with TV, VCR, media centers, air-conditioning (I know it is a bit more complex because of the communication behavior), etc..
"What are the simpler facts?" I like to create or extend a light-weight library to send commands over IR, using Java and maybe some native C on demand. I may build some IR units using Arduino-like producs to have an easy IR led driver, or I like the headphone jack method. I did not decide yet which to use, I tried both are OK. As it will be java/C, I may use it on a PC, self-build device, mobile devices (Android/iPhone/WP/....) or on ones I just can not imagine yet :). I can parse or mine most of the standard data formats (this O1R database is extremely handy, because of the SQLite, but the commands are enrypted and I don't want to spend time on cracking it).
"So.. yet another person is going to make another PC based remote control.." :) yes, I'm someone with some big-big dreams :) I don't expect to earn quadrillion dollars on this. like it Btw I plan to release the library to an open-source repo (like gitHub), when I it reaches a usable state, but can not confirm these yet.
regards
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| Post 9 made on Friday May 10, 2013 at 12:28 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 30,076 |
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This sounds like an interesting thing to pursue, the kind of thing I would do if I did not have to earn a living. I wish you well as it's likely to be a lot of fun and you'll learn A LOT along the way!
There are many IR databases, and most of them consist of sets of commands in Pronto Hex, gathered (learned on remotes) by users. That is, this is a volunteer effort. As such, there is no control over the accuracy, and if you look into these databases you will find repetition, lack of organization, and occasional but rare code errors.
Then there are really robust databases, such as the collection of Crestron modules, but you have to be a dealer (which ain't free!) to obtain those.
If you create a database, it will be useful only if its commands can be used by, for instance, RTI, URC, Harmony, and other companies.
Now that I think of it, the largest database out there might be the sets of commands that come with four-in-one etc. type cheap remotes. These sets always have problems -- the TV/VCR combos, for instance, never had volume control commmands! But these databases are not published, as far as I know. They are packed into ROM in the remotes.
Hope this helps, and enjoy your quest.
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