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DTV Genie with standard HR/H receivers?
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Post 1 made on Friday December 14, 2012 at 07:31
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I was told you can mix and match so long as you pay attention to the 8/16 tuner rules. Can anyone confirm this?

We are planning on installing a Genie to take advantage of the smaller client receivers in some rooms but I want to have HR24's in the racks because of the output options.

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Post 2 made on Friday December 14, 2012 at 09:52
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On December 14, 2012 at 07:31, drewski300 said...
I was told you can mix and match so long as you pay attention to the 8/16 tuner rules. Can anyone confirm this?

We are planning on installing a Genie to take advantage of the smaller client receivers in some rooms but I want to have HR24's in the racks because of the output options.

Thanks

Everything I 've seen is that you have to have a HR 34(home media center) for the Genies to be able to access the DVR functions and such.
Post 3 made on Friday December 14, 2012 at 13:25
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the clients will only work with the hr34
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OP | Post 4 made on Saturday December 15, 2012 at 10:16
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I know the clients only with the HR34 but can you have a DirecTV environment with a mixture of HR34's, C31 clients, HR24, and H25's? I want the client boxes for any future TV's but I would rather use HR 24's in the rack for the video distribution portion.
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Post 5 made on Saturday December 15, 2012 at 10:32
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yes. total tuner rule applies.
OP | Post 6 made on Saturday December 15, 2012 at 11:21
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On December 15, 2012 at 10:32, marban said...
yes. total tuner rule applies.

Thank you!!

The HR34 eats up tuners fast so we are going to use a SWM16.
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Post 7 made on Saturday December 15, 2012 at 11:24
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You can have any mixture of receivers/DVRs and can exceed the 16 tuner limit with the appropriate number of multi-switches. My current setup (combination of HR34, HR24, HR20, H24 & H25 boxes) has a total of 28 tuners and has access to the Universal Playlist of all servers combined.

However, the C31 (Genie Client) cannot access any recordings from any server other than the HR34 (Genie Server) at this time. Perhaps a future software update will change that.

Its advantage is that it can manage the playlist of the HR34, pause and rewind live TV (by utilizing a tuner from the HR34), and it is very, very small. But again, the disadvantage is that it can only access the recordings from the HR34 and that its "live feed" is slightly delayed.

Have you considered the H25, rather than the C31? It may be bigger than the C31, but is still small enough to be installed behind a flat screen, if need be. The H25 is roughly the size of a 2-disc DVD box set.

Like all other receivers, the H25 will have access to the recordings on all Playlists from any server (whether it be a HR34 or HR2x) in the system and you can assign which DVR to record to. And, for the same monthly lease price of a C31, with its own tuner, the H25 will not tie up a tuner from the HR34 and its feed is not delayed in relation to all other "live" feeds in the system.
Post 8 made on Saturday December 15, 2012 at 11:26
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On December 15, 2012 at 10:16, drewski300 said...
I know the clients only with the HR34 but can you have a DirecTV environment with a mixture of HR34's, C31 clients, HR24, and H25's? I want the client boxes for any future TV's but I would rather use HR 24's in the rack for the video distribution portion.

yes...I do it all the time so the clients don't eat up all those tuners!!
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OP | Post 9 made on Saturday December 15, 2012 at 11:37
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On December 15, 2012 at 11:24, SportsFan said...
You can have any mixture of receivers/DVRs and can exceed the 16 tuner limit with the appropriate number of multi-switches. My current setup (combination of HR34, HR24, HR20, H24 & H25 boxes) has a total of 28 tuners and has access to the Universal Playlist of all servers combined.

However, the C31 (Genie Client) cannot access any recordings from any server other than the HR34 (Genie Server) at this time. Perhaps a future software update will change that.

Its advantage is that it can manage the playlist of the HR34, pause and rewind live TV (by utilizing a tuner from the HR34), and it is very, very small. But again, the disadvantage is that it can only access the recordings from the HR34 and that its "live feed" is slightly delayed.

Have you considered the H25, rather than the C31? It may be bigger than the C31, but is still small enough to be installed behind a flat screen, if need be. The H25 is roughly the size of a 2-disc DVD box set.

Like all other receivers, the H25 will have access to the recordings on all Playlists from any server (whether it be a HR34 or HR2x) in the system and you can assign which DVR to record to. And, for the same monthly lease price of a C31, with its own tuner, the H25 will not tie up a tuner from the HR34 and its feed is not delayed in relation to all other "live" feeds in the system.

Thank you for the great info. It's our first install with a mixture because of the size of the project. I have no problem using H25's although I don't like the heat those suckers put out. I haven't asked my guys about how much heat the C31's output.
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Post 10 made on Sunday December 16, 2012 at 13:48
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Just remember that the C31 clients actually use a tuner on the HR 34, so you can have more than 4-C31's but only 4 can be in use at 1 time, might be a draw back for some.
OP | Post 11 made on Sunday December 16, 2012 at 14:39
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This post has been really informative for me thanks!

I received so many damn emails from 3 different vendors regarding Genie that I didn't even open them. It was like 3-6 emails a day for a while!

I finished an install yesterday and will say the clients are extremely nice and produce a fraction of the heat a H25 does.

I'm surprised the clients don't have access to other recordings on other DVR's in the system. Sounds like something they will push through on a future update.
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Post 12 made on Thursday February 7, 2013 at 10:31
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Prewiring for an HR-34 soon...Assuming a SWM16 head-end, does the HR-34 require any more than the normal single coax feed? I cannot find a backplane pic on the DTV site or anywhere else.

TIA
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Post 13 made on Thursday February 7, 2013 at 10:45
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On February 7, 2013 at 10:31, Mogul said...
Prewiring for an HR-34 soon...Assuming a SWM16 head-end, does the HR-34 require any more than the normal single coax feed? I cannot find a backplane pic on the DTV site or anywhere else.

TIA

I would recommend running siamese solid copper wire/ground from satelite to structured panel, then rg6 solid copper to main tuner. everything else can be copper clad rg6.
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Post 14 made on Thursday February 7, 2013 at 10:49
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Thanks NEZBO--But just one coax to the HR-34?
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