Is it possible to turn a Fios "all in one" into a modem only and then add a router and ap's?
For some reason I think only the wi-fi can be disabled and you have to use the built-in router. It may have to do with the set top boxes for tv?
Hopefully one of you know the answer.
Thanks in advance for any input, Cheers!!

Easy way... put your router behind it and set it up as a DMZ. That is what I do on every job. Turn off Wireless in the Fios router, give my router a DHCP reservation, set it up as DMZ, and call it a day. Then you never have to touch the Fios router again (unless someone resets it......).

Other than setup mistakes on my part, I've never had an issue doing it this way.

The hardest part of this whole process is getting the login and password for the mode/router. At out office, the modem quit. Road Runner cam out an put in a modem/router. I try all of the default passwords I knew, and still couldn't get into the settings. Finally had to call Road Runner and the passwords they gave me wouldn't work either. They ended up having to run a script on the router to disable DHCP, NAT and Wifi. For clients I usually purchase a Cisco Modem for 70-80 bucks from New Egg. If you do this make sure you get DOCSIS 3.0. We had our POS, Credit Card Terminal, NAS Drive, eFax, VPN, Security System, and CCTV system all on the router with Port Forwarding. There was no way I was going to waste time to set that all up again using their stupid Ubee router.

What brand modem/router? You can usually search google and find the admin user and password.

Mike

If it's Verizon Fios I usually make sure the customer hasn't made any changes to the router config (seriously, how often does that happen?)... then I do a hard reset on it and knock it back to defaults. Now when you log in to it, it prompts you to set up a new password.

Yes, run your cat5 straight to the box, disconnect the actiontec or whatever one it is. Its not a requirement to use their garbage. Been down this road a few times. If you have an issue, call Verizon and tell them your using your own router plugged directly into their fiber demarc box.

This is also how I do this with Fios. If you are using Fios for cable TV you will still need their router for the boxes to get out to the world. When doing this I always stick their router on anther VLan with the cable boxes.

Wow, never thought of this as a solution. I would have thought that double NAT would be a problem with this, even with the DMZ, but apparently not based upon further research. If this pans out it will prevent a lot of coordination headaches in the future.

Wow i really need to get serious on my networking skills, you guys are talking french. :)

Please elaborate on the dmz. Are you defining a dmz in the fios router and putting your router into the dmz?

Just when I thought I was getting a handle on this networking stuff!! I haven't dealt with Vlan's. How do I get more info. on Vlan's?

a vlan is a virtual LAN. With high end routers you can sometimes configure multiple LANs on one device (i.e. they will have different IP addresses and can't talk to each other). My guess from his post (and my own experience) that what he is saying is that the set-top boxes are directly connected to the FIOS router (and so in the DMZ and so they are in the IP address space of the FIOS router) while the other devices are connected (wirelessly or through Ethernet) to the internal router

Give Pakedge a call, this is where I learned quite a bit in advanced networking. They have preconfigured much of the process for integrators now. I started with them when they first stepped into the Vlan business.

And yes, I would put the Fios router on their own Vlan and still have the Fios router do DHCP. Only for the cable boxes themselves though. Being this was the early days Pakedge had yet to do have much experience with this process either. So I spent a bit on the time with Vic getting it going.

Agreed, give them a call they have a solution that works. In the past I have used a Network Interface module from Verizon with mixed results, nothing I could ever install at a client and expect it to work reliably. One way to have a reliable setup is below;
The ethernet wan from the ONT goes into your router, then the Coax output from the ONT goes into the Verizon router as well as your Set top boxes. Run a patch cable linking your router or switch to the Wan port on Verizon's router. You have to change the ip address of the Verizon router and the dhcp range it outputs so as to not interfere with your LAN.

If the Fios and the user router are setup with DMZ then neither will have firewall protection, right? If my assumption is right then why would you do it this way? If I am wrong can you explain it further on how to implement?