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Post 1 made on Thursday August 9, 2012 at 12:58
logger
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I am building a vintage system and need to find a new remote I can load files I poster here 10 years ago.
Can you guys ( and gals) direct me to some remotes one can load these files into and what kind of hardware will I need.

Very old school. Been a long time since I used to design and install/program systems. Know nothing of the modern world except the codes I loaded 10 years ago are still here!

Used the Xantec stuff no longer available. Gotta get current, but only this once!

Buying All new stuff for the main listening room.

Thanks, I know some gunslinger will know just what to do.
If it's not simple, it's not sufficiently advanced
Post 2 made on Thursday August 9, 2012 at 14:37
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Ernie? where are you?

This is a post for you to answer.

logger, we will need a lot more info to help you.

What type of files do you use?

What do you want to control?

What Xantec stuff did you use back in the days?

Is it only for single commands or you will need to do macros?

Give us a lot more info on your project and the gear you are using.

Once we have this, then we might be able to help you.
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Post 3 made on Thursday August 9, 2012 at 14:55
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On August 9, 2012 at 12:58, logger said...
I am building a vintage system and need to find a new remote I can load files I poster here 10 years ago.
Can you guys ( and gals) direct me to some remotes one can load these files into and what kind of hardware will I need.

Very old school. Been a long time since I used to design and install/program systems. Know nothing of the modern world except the codes I loaded 10 years ago are still here!

Used the Xantec stuff no longer available. Gotta get current, but only this once!

Buying All new stuff for the main listening room.

Thanks, I know some gunslinger will know just what to do.

Most/maybe all new remotes will not work with the files you posted 10 years ago.

Describe the new system (what devices you want to control...shades lights screen projector tv?).

Post your budget for the remote & possible base station/control processor.

You want hard buttons or are you ready to go all iPad?

Someone will point you in the right direction.
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OP | Post 4 made on Thursday August 9, 2012 at 19:12
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Thanks for answering. This should be simple.

I have a ten year old TEAC reference series AH 500 based sound system. I had programmed a URC 2 by Xantec using their "Drag n' Drop" system programmer. Lost the original remote the URC is now scrabnoid and out of production.
Found one compatible remote, too much $ and not programmable.
Search for the Teac AH 500 files. That kind. They're here. I uploaded them 10 years ago. For others, but Need them myself now.
I'd just like a simple device I can load these into. If not do-able I'll plan ahead and get something programmable via PC so I can incorporate discrete codes for Sony TV and some macros. This is for occasional use and don't want to get real fancy ,but will if that's the only way to get these codes into something. This is just a stereo, DirectTV receiver and a Sony TV, but I am building a more serious Hi Fi with music server, Blue Ray, Sat receiver in another room so can  I now use one handheld for both systems (they will never be used simultaneously and are in semi adjoining rooms)
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Post 5 made on Friday August 10, 2012 at 02:38
Ernie Gilman
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I do have a lot of questions --

logger, we will need a lot more info to help you.

What type of files do you use?

What do you want to control?

What Xantec stuff did you use back in the day?

Is it only for single commands or you will need to do macros?

Give us a lot more info on your project and the gear you are using.

Once we have this, then we might be able to help you.

That was pretty easy for me to write!

Moving on:

On August 9, 2012 at 19:12, logger said...
Thanks for answering. This should be simple.

Sorry, but you're wrong about that.

Search for the Teac AH 500 files. That kind.

What do you mean "That kind"? Name the kind.

They're here.

Where? Give us a URL. Or give us the remote that these files were for at the time. Or search in the Files section -- there's a way to search all the files for particular product, so you'll find it no matter what programmable remote the file is for.

I uploaded them 10 years ago.

Hmmm. You probably mean downloaded. Downloaded from this site to your computer; further downloaded them to a remote or more than one remote.

I'd just like a simple device I can load these into.

We don't know what "these" are, what brand and model of remote they are made for... this is where you were wrong that it should be simple. Too much information is missing for it to be simple; and if the file(s) are for obsolete remotes, that also complicates thing.

If not do-able I'll plan ahead and get something programmable via PC so I can incorporate discrete codes for Sony TV and some macros. This is for occasional use and don't want to get real fancy, but will if that's the only way to get these codes into something. This is just a stereo, DirectTV receiver and a Sony TV, but I am building a more serious Hi Fi with music server, Blue Ray, Sat receiver in another room so can I now use one handheld for both systems (they will never be used simultaneously and are in semi adjoining rooms)

You just said you want a simple remote now but you want it to be complicated later. sorry, but you have to buy a remote capable of being complicated NOW if it ever will be.

Note that you said it's for occasional use; not only will you be buying just one of these remotes, but you won't even use it all the time. Now consider that to program a complicated remote, you need to learn how to work a complicated program. That probably means factory training or calling the factory to ask them questions as you conquer the software. Now... hold on... the remote control companies can afford to answer questions for installers who will apply those answers, say, to fifty remotes. But there is no way they could allow individuals to buy these remotes, then have to answer fifty times as many questions!

Thus, the remote you're looking for will have controlled distribution and controlled software. Either that, or you can buy a Harmony remote, which most installers won't touch because you can't just program them and have them always work -- the programmer has to keep futzing with them to make them work again. Hobbyists can do that, but installers can't.

And oh, yeah, it'll take a pro installer, probably, to make whatever file used to control your system work again.

And if you have systems in two rooms and one remote, you'll find yourself always leaving the remote in one of the rooms, rarely carrying it with you at the right time.

Last edited by Ernie Gilman on August 10, 2012 02:51.
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Post 6 made on Friday August 10, 2012 at 08:46
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I believe the Pronto file he's talking about is here. And based on the name, looks like he was probably the one to upload it 10 years ago.
Post 7 made on Friday August 10, 2012 at 12:26
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On August 9, 2012 at 12:58, logger said...
I am building a vintage system and need to find a new remote I can load files I poster here 10 years ago.

Go to ebay and buy the remote you had back then and save yourself a lot of drama. [Link: ebay.com]

Can you guys ( and gals) direct me to some remotes one can load these files into and what kind of hardware will I need.

You wont need any hardware (other than the remote and programming cable) as long as you have line of sight. If you don't have line of sight you will need an IR repeater system.

Very old school. Been a long time since I used to design and install/program systems. Know nothing of the modern world except the codes I loaded 10 years ago are still here!

They still work but only on the remote you had then.

Used the Xantec stuff no longer available. Gotta get current, but only this once!

By xantech i assume you mean IR repeater system of some sort.

Buying All new stuff for the main listening room.

Thanks, I know some gunslinger will know just what to do.
Avid Stamp Collector - I really love 39 Cent Stamps
OP | Post 8 made on Friday August 10, 2012 at 14:44
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Sorry fellows didn't mean to complicate things.
The files I intend to use I got from the original remote over to a Xantec URC2 programmable remote and transferred them to Xantec's "Drag n' drop" software and then uploaded them to this site. I do not remember what they were called then CFR or something.
I'd like to find a cheap remote to load them into. Will need some sort of software to do so.
If not possible cheaply I am willing to get a better system as I am in the middle of building a better system for an adjoining room. It would be very convenient to be able to control them both from the same remote.
Then I will need something nicer and can usually figure out how stuff works if some one can point me to whats happening today and save a little research.
I stopped doing what y'all do about 10 years ago and went back to the oil field and have not kept up. I was in the audio business since college.
I programmed several macros for the URC 2 via drag n' drop 12 or 13 years ago. Y'all remember "Drag n' drop"? Xantec's programmer for all it's automated keypads and such.

I don't use Mac's so "i" stuff may not be a candidate. But they do seem cool.
I'd like a solely touch screen interface with nice colors. My main concern is the application needed to load those files archived here into something to operate this pretty, but vintage system.
If it's not simple, it's not sufficiently advanced
Post 9 made on Friday August 10, 2012 at 14:55
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You can still find some URC2's around (man I hated that remote)

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OP | Post 10 made on Friday August 10, 2012 at 20:22
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That's the one I chose for myself back then. The Pronto was new and had issues. Crestron was too cumbersome. Etc. I only had a simple stereo,directv so simpler was better. I'd do whatever I could sell to customers , but for myself........
Thank you for the insider tip I was looking for. I had called Xantec and was told they no longer made that or the newer color screen model. For now I'll just get one of these and use the software and this site for the codes for my sat and Sony TV and whip up some macros.
Thanks again. And again for not trying to tell me how little I know and what I'd probably REALLY like.

Here's the PRO, guys! Daniel and 39 too!
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