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The Woz doesn't like the cloud, either
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Post 1 made on Thursday August 9, 2012 at 00:14
Ernie Gilman
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That might be the only thing I can claim in common with Wozniak, but here it is: [Link: technolog.msnbc.msn.com]

"I really worry about everything going to the cloud," Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak recently said. "I think it's going to be horrendous. I think there are going to be a lot of horrible problems in the next five years."

What does he know, right?
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 2 made on Thursday August 9, 2012 at 08:20
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Great read. Interesting to read that such a tech driven company like Apple doesn't have as elaborate security measures as some of their competitors.
Defectus tuus consilium carpere discrimen mihi non constituit.
Post 3 made on Thursday August 9, 2012 at 09:57
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If Wozniak feels so strongly that it's going to be horrendous, why on earth is he still using the technology?  For a person who is such a genius, that seems awfully dumb.

If 1 out of every 100 times I used my sawzall I cut off one of my fingers, I'd stop using my sawzall.  And I'd do it after the 2nd finger.  The first finger would just be a fluke.

I'm not saying that he's totally off base, but he's ranting about something that could've been prevented by properly backing up his info in the first place. The rest of the article pertains to strong passwords.

If a person doesn't use strong passwords at this point, the person should just give up on computers in general.  The technology has passed them by.

In some form or fashion my computer has been telling me for 10 years to make sure I back things up.  If I choose not to, it's my fault, not the technology.

Here's a link for the 25 most common passwords extracted by ESET.  

[Link: zdnet.com]

You can't fix stupid.
Post 4 made on Thursday August 9, 2012 at 10:59
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#7 is "dragon"? wtf?
Post 5 made on Thursday August 9, 2012 at 11:12
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On August 9, 2012 at 10:59, jimstolz76 said...
#7 is "dragon"? wtf?

maybe it was actually dungeons and dragons.
Post 6 made on Thursday August 9, 2012 at 11:47
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On August 9, 2012 at 08:20, william david design said...
Great read. Interesting to read that such a tech driven company like Apple doesn't have as elaborate security measures as some of their competitors.

The first paragraph says Woz authorized a third-party app to make changes to his cloud account and someone else's iCloud and Dropbox accounts were compromised. There is no security measure for dumb users.

Yes, I am blaming the "victim" here. They left their housekeys in the most obvious place to look for them.
Post 7 made on Thursday August 9, 2012 at 17:40
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On August 9, 2012 at 09:57, Hasbeen said...
If a person doesn't use strong passwords at this point, the person should just give up on computers in general.  The technology has passed them by.

I don't know about Woz's problem but the Wired reporter breach would have happened no matter how strong your password was. I have outlined it here: [Link: whatsbestforum.com]

In a nutshell, it was a weakness in the procedure for resetting passwords. All that was needed to get that done was your email alias and home address and a few careful steps. With just those two pieces of information, his online life was turned upside down. I am pretty sure people did not know until this week that they were this exposed and that their entire PC, phone and tablet could be wiped out this way. I put the blame firmly on companies rolling out these services not thinking through the potential for security breaches. Users should not have to have a responsibility here.
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Post 8 made on Thursday August 9, 2012 at 17:50
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On August 9, 2012 at 17:40, amirm said...
I don't know about Woz's problem but the Wired reporter breach would have happened no matter how strong your password was. I have outlined it here: [Link: whatsbestforum.com]

In a nutshell, it was a weakness in the procedure for resetting passwords. All that was needed to get that done was your email alias and home address and a few careful steps. With just those two pieces of information, his online life was turned upside down. I am pretty sure people did not know until this week that they were this exposed and that their entire PC, phone and tablet could be wiped out this way. I put the blame firmly on companies rolling out these services not thinking through the potential for security breaches. Users should not have to have a responsibility here.

No doubt.  I read the entire article.  It was as simple as a phone call to Apple with some very basic information.  We discussed this in another thread as well.  

Social engineering.   Does anyone tihnk it's a coincidence that Def Con is happening this week and the theme of this years event is Social  Engineering?


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