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What is name of Niles switcher
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| Topic: | What is name of Niles switcher This thread has 24 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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| Post 1 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 14:11 |
Zohan Super Member |
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I know it has been discussed and from what I read sounds like a reliable piece. I'm trying to look it up, need model # for the switch that will allow speakers to play from 2 sources...
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| Post 2 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 14:21 |
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Are you talking about the old TVA-20?
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| Post 3 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 14:24 |
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maybe this [Link: nilesaudio.com] Switching Systems&categoryID=Switching Systems&catcdID=10&prdcdID=FG00240
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| Post 4 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 14:25 |
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Voltage triggered speaker level switcher is spk-1. Not sure if that is what you're looking for?
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I'm Not an engineer, but I play one on TV.
My handle is Tweety but I have nothing to do with the organization of similar name. I just had a really big head as a child so folks called me tweety bird. |
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| OP | Post 5 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 15:01 |
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I think it's the spk-1.
Scenario is:
Met with potential client. Part of what he wants to do is to have audio from sonos over his home theater speakers in addition to audio from the receiver, to same speakers. Receiver most likely denon.
Is the spk-1 what I need?
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| Post 6 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 15:07 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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By the way, after I wrote all the below, I realized that you have to order it from someone, and they should be able to help you work out the right model number. But anyway:
Lessee now...
I go to niles audio dot com, no spaces...
Click on Products but get "Featured Products."
I see your problem: is it Multizone Audio, or Mulit-Room, or Loudspeaker Solutions? No to all three choices!
But there's Products on that page, too! Why do I have to choose Products TWICE to see products? I guess they aren't thinking of us, but instead satisfying their need to feature stuff.
Aha! Automated Switching Systems! And when I click on that, I get a bunch of product.
The ABS-1 is what you want. It does not specifically state that it is for two amps and one pair of speakers, but looking at the instructions shows that it switches when it senses audio on one of the inputs, meaning it's got two inputs. The three sets of speaker wire connections then make that two sets of inputs and one set of outputs, so two amps and one pair of speakers.
It's very reliable. Just be sure that you choose whichever amp output is likely to be louder and use that to switch. If you choose the quieter signal, this might drop out when you don't want it to.
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| OP | Post 7 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 15:19 |
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Bam...the abs-1 fits the bill better than the spk-1
Thanks
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| Post 8 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 15:32 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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I think the real issue is that, whether they know it or not, the Niles website does not make finding product all that easy. From having that first page be featured products when you've clicked on a general icon, to having incomplete descriptions as the ABS-1 is, it's just not that easy.
It's still much easier than many A/V distributors, where, for instance, you look up RTI product and have to wade through batteries, remote control replacement battery covers, and other such BS, before you can get to the actual damn product!
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| Post 9 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 15:58 |
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Or, you can call somebody up, ask them, and they'll tell you what it is you want.
They may, at some point, ask you to buy stuff from them.
I like voltage triggering in this type of application; in a perfect world, you'd select the house as default and the avr as priority, and plug a power supply into the switched outlet to make it work properly.
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| Post 10 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 16:08 |
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If you have any sort of controllable 12 volt trigger in your system, then use the spk-1. It's going to be much more reliable than a signal sensing switch will ever be. No triggers? Then you must use something like the abs-1. We use spk-1 with Sonos and Integra all the time. Integra turns on, trigger switches the speakers to the Integra's speakers. Turn the Integra off, it's back to Sonos. If the customer wants to switch on the fly, we give them a button on the remote that turns the Integra 12 volt trigger on and off.
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I'm Not an engineer, but I play one on TV.
My handle is Tweety but I have nothing to do with the organization of similar name. I just had a really big head as a child so folks called me tweety bird. |
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| Post 11 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 16:10 |
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Why not just make sonos a source on the theater receiver and have the receiver turn on?
Never mind... i realized after i typed the sentence above that you would have to hold two remotes (sonos and the receiver) thanks to no control of sonos.
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| OP | Post 12 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 16:14 |
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On August 1, 2012 at 15:32, Ernie Gilman said...
I think the real issue is that, whether they know it or not, the Niles website does not make finding product all that easy. From having that first page be featured products when you've clicked on a general icon, to having incomplete descriptions as the ABS-1 is, it's just not that easy.
It's still much easier than many A/V distributors, where, for instance, you look up RTI product and have to wade through batteries, remote control replacement battery covers, and other such BS, before you can get to the actual damn product! If you think the niles site is bad, go check out a#$D's :)
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| OP | Post 13 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 16:16 |
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On August 1, 2012 at 16:08, tweetymp4 said...
If you have any sort of controllable 12 volt trigger in your system, then use the ABS-1. It's going to be much more reliable than a signal sensing switch will ever be.
No triggers? Then you must use something like the BAM.
We use spk-1 with Sonos and Integra all the time. Integra turns on, trigger switches the speakers to the Integra's speakers. Turn the Integra off, it's back to Sonos. If the customer wants to switch on the fly, we give them a button on the remote that turns the Integra 12 volt trigger on and off. The receiver I have to do this with is Denon avr-2113. No switched outlet. If I want to use voltage sense I have to tell client we need to upgrade his receiver, or I can use the ABS-1, audio sense. Are you saying its not reliable?
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| Post 14 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 16:17 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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On August 1, 2012 at 15:58, Fred Harding said...
I like voltage triggering in this type of application; in a perfect world, you'd select the house as default and the avr as priority, and plug a power supply into the switched outlet to make it work properly. I agree, but not all amps have switched outlets any more. On August 1, 2012 at 16:08, tweetymp4 said...
If you have any sort of controllable 12 volt trigger in your system, then use the ABS-1. It's going to be much more reliable than a signal sensing switch will ever be. The ABS-1 IS a signal switching device. I think you meant the SPK-1. The SAS-1 is available for anyone who has to have only one SKU and has money to burn, too. No triggers? Then you must use something like the BAM. What's a BAM?
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| Post 15 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 16:56 |
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[Link: speakercraft.com] Another option. I think we have had this discussion before where I suggested this as well.
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