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Custom Install and LED Lighting control
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| Topic: | Custom Install and LED Lighting control This thread has 12 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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| Post 1 made on Tuesday July 31, 2012 at 18:56 |
gopronto Senior Member |
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Hi Installers
If you had a choice of controlling LED lighting ( on/off dimming etc)
would your preference be ;-
RS232
RS485
DMX
Ethernet
or a hybrid version
ethernet to DMX or RS232 or 485
Look forward to the feedback.
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| Post 2 made on Tuesday July 31, 2012 at 19:07 |
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well since you mentioned DMX i assume your talking about commercial lighting? i would do RS232-DMX depending on the control system and the required number of lighting devices If your talking about residential accent lighting then use these guys. www.cyron.comMore information is needed
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| Post 3 made on Tuesday July 31, 2012 at 19:10 |
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| Post 4 made on Tuesday July 31, 2012 at 19:10 |
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If you were to make something now it would almost have to be IP controllable. DMX for the commercial world!
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| OP | Post 5 made on Tuesday July 31, 2012 at 19:11 |
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this is mainly for residential lighting.
There are already countries that have to fit LED lighting in new homes, so we will all have to manufacture a solution soon. :)
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| Post 6 made on Tuesday July 31, 2012 at 19:12 |
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Oops, totally misinterpreted the OP, yeah ethernet
But DMX is one of those things where its old but it works well
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| OP | Post 7 made on Tuesday July 31, 2012 at 19:14 |
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On July 31, 2012 at 19:10, charris said...
PWM, DMX and 0-10V Already have:- RS232 to 0-10 (4Ch) RS232 to PWM, (3Ch and 6 Ch) DMX (3ch came online this week) But what do you want as the control Port? Ethernet, RS232,RS485 or DMX?
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| Post 8 made on Tuesday July 31, 2012 at 20:09 |
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Honestly you need to have IP or RS232 AND IR. That way you can hit all the angles. I would prefer IP and IR.
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| Post 9 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 03:57 |
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IR, DMX, IP, RS232
(probably in that order of importance)
however, most importantly they need to be able to be dimmed by actual dimmers, not just internally with preset levels
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| OP | Post 10 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 04:39 |
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On August 1, 2012 at 03:57, Eastside A/V said...
IR, DMX, IP, RS232
(probably in that order of importance)
however, most importantly they need to be able to be dimmed by actual dimmers, not just internally with preset levels At the moment , the protocol lets you set any level or 0 to 100% IR is to limiting. the units are capable of give feedback ,so you can query the value of each output. eg get value of unit address 10 , unit will then return a value of each output.. we have a glide function in seconds , so if you go from 0% to 100% it will use the glide time to go from 0 to 100% stops the snap to value problem which looks cheap and nasty.. which means if your doing coloured LEDs you get this very nice fade from one colour to another ..
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| Post 11 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 14:29 |
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On August 1, 2012 at 04:39, gopronto said...
At the moment , the protocol lets you set any level or 0 to 100%
IR is to limiting. the units are capable of give feedback ,so you can query the value of each output.
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get value of unit address 10 , unit will then return a value of each output..
we have a glide function in seconds , so if you go from 0% to 100% it will use the glide time to go from 0 to 100% stops the snap to value problem which looks cheap and nasty.. which means if your doing coloured LEDs you get this very nice fade from one colour to another .. I have some new Toshiba LED lamps in my house on dimmers. They don't glide from 0% up; the jump from 0%~30%. However, they do glide _down_ from 100% all the way down to 0% with no problem. There might be a capacitor in there that has to charge before they turn on. The dimming adjustment is smooth though.
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| Post 12 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 15:12 |
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On August 1, 2012 at 14:29, Lowhz said...
There might be a capacitor in there that has to charge before they turn on. The dimming adjustment is smooth though. LED loads are tricky to dim, and zero to on is the worst, unless flicker irritates you more. I'm guessing the OP is making something new, but that would have been nice to know. Why don't people tell us everything? I think IP. DMX, IR, RS232, which I think was someone else's suggestion. Also, just because DMX is commercial, doesn't mean it's wrong for home use. If it is, tell all your customers with Sub Zero refrigerators and commercial stoves that they have to get rid of them. Not to mention the $27,000 line quadrupler I saw installed at Baby Face's house in the late 90s, that I put into another client's house soon after. Faroudja then used only RS232 and added IR to subsequent models after my complaint.
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| OP | Post 13 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 21:12 |
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It has just been confirmed that some of the new LED controllers will be at Cedia 2012 on this stand [Link: lumencache.com]
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