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| Topic: | URC Cheat Sheet This thread has 43 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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| Post 1 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 16:37 |
captaincondor Long Time Member |
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Hey just wondering if anyone has a cheat sheet they give to their clients when they are done a remote install. I am finding more and more clients are not writing things down and i am going for service calls for ridiculous things that if they wrote my directions down i would not have to waste my time.
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| Post 2 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 16:44 |
goldenzrule Loyal Member |
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I don't typically, but I have put together an instruction manual, complete with screen captures I took right out of CCP or the Editor (don't remember which it was at the time). This was for one of my best and wealthiest clients. I have found that for the most part, the remotes are so intuitive when I am finished that the clients can typically figure out everything on their own.
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| OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 16:55 |
captaincondor Long Time Member |
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ahahha goldenzrule your that good eh?!?!?!? I find that the older my clients are the dopier they have become and i dont understand why people are not writing stuff down even after i tell them UGG
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| Post 4 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 16:59 |
Impaqt RC Moderator |
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we dont provide them standard, but do have a cheatsheet we can provide if someone really just doesnt get it....
I would seriously question what you are doing though if you get a lot of people that "Dont get" your remotes.
I generally find the most problematic remotes are the ones where the salesperson way undersold the remote. the system needed Savant or Control4 and they ended up with a MX450.... Recipe for disaster every time.
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| Post 5 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 17:17 |
comet Active Member |
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Customers will instinctively go grab a pen and paper when its time for the tutorial but rarely write thing down once they see how the remote works.
Usually I hear...Its that easy?
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| Post 6 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 17:24 |
goldenzrule Loyal Member |
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On February 15, 2012 at 16:55, captaincondor said...
ahahha goldenzrule your that good eh?!?!?!? I find that the older my clients are the dopier they have become and i dont understand why people are not writing stuff down even after i tell them UGG I don't think I am anything special, however I have programmed a thousand remotes, all the same way with just different equipment. You pick up the remote and press whatever source you want (i.e. cable, bluray, appletv...) and everything just turns on and to the correct inputs. Then you just use the remote to control that device, controls volume, yada, yada. Just as everyone else does I am sure. Seriously, a 2 year old through a 102 year old can pick up the remote and just turn on the system. In the event they really are THAT stupid, they can just press ON which defaults to Cable/Satellite. When they are done just press OFF anywhere on the remote and the system shuts off. It really is that easy.
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| Post 7 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 17:51 |
Mario Loyal Member |
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I believe Mac (Stamp) contributed to a thread about 2 months ago when someone asked for what software to use to do just the thing you're asking. The answer I believe was MS Publisher or PowerPoint,both will work easy enough. Do NOT use MS Word unless you have no other choice as moving text or text-boxes is a bit of PITA. I can't do search now or I would just post the link.
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| Post 8 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 17:52 |
Mario Loyal Member |
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| OP | Post 9 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 18:08 |
captaincondor Long Time Member |
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mario
thats what i am looking for. Thanks
goldenzrules i usually program the ON button then source select. I suppose my extra step creates confusion. I have done 1000's of remotes as well but i still get questions about stuff
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| Post 10 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 18:27 |
goldenzrule Loyal Member |
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On February 15, 2012 at 18:08, captaincondor said...
mario
thats what i am looking for. Thanks
goldenzrules i usually program the ON button then source select. I suppose my extra step creates confusion. I have done 1000's of remotes as well but i still get questions about stuff Do you program with discrete commands? While it will work the way you describe, it is not just one less step, but far less problematic to simply have the macro on each source or "activity" power everything on and change inputs. Then you simply tell your customer, just press the button you wish to watch/listen to.
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| Post 11 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 19:26 |
Innovative A/V Select Member |
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I have seen other urc dealers in my area with these "cheat sheets". I don't understand this. I program my RTI systems very simple, I have a couple clients in their 80's and one in his 90's. I have never provided a cheat sheet and within about 10 mins of letting them use them they are off on their own.
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| Post 12 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 19:31 |
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On February 15, 2012 at 16:55, captaincondor said...
ahahha goldenzrule your that good eh?!?!?!? I find that the older my clients are the dopier they have become and i dont understand why people are not writing stuff down even after i tell them UGG Still don't get this....always use discretes, or the solid work around for the bluray, and we ALWAYS use a processor or the control system doesn't get sold. Too many headaches and missed commands without a processor
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| Post 13 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 19:37 |
tweeterguy Loyal Member |
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I agree with Golden and Innovative. The only time we ever provide a user guide (single page with a screen shot and call outs) for a hand held controller is if a) the client is not present during final install or b) the property is a secondary residence used by guests in addition to the owner. Other than that nobody has ever complained about "getting it"; not even an 88 year old woman I just recently setup with an mx-780. If she can understand it, your clients can.
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| Post 14 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 19:38 |
Hasbeen Loyal Member |
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I think that the "point" of these remotes is that you shouldn't need a cheat sheet. However, I've certainly been in your situation. It's important to me that the system is as easy to use as possible. I tell clients "If you can read english, you can use the remote. period."
For a small 1 or 2 room solution, it should take less than 5 minutes to show them how to use the remote, and that's basically familiarizing the client with where the specific buttons are. If it takes more, I'd consider a different remote, or possibly a different programming style.
But I've certainly screwed up a few in my day, I think programmers after awhile start to think in a very logical fashion, similar to how a remote control works. But that's not the way alot of people think, and there lies the problem. We have to think like them, not us. What we think is painfully obvious, is mind-boggling difficult to them.
Matching the right remote with the right system is essential. I've over-estimated a remotes capabilities in my day, I've also learned my lesson, credited the client and installed the right remote for them.
It might be the right remote, but it might not be right for them.
If the system isn't easy to use. You lose. It's that simple.
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| OP | Post 15 made on Wednesday February 15, 2012 at 19:51 |
captaincondor Long Time Member |
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I always program with discrete codes. I just always have all the devices turn on first and then allow the customer to choose their source. It was the way i was taught five years ago and have never deviated. What is the purpose of the on button on the remote?
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