Total Control posted this in the RTI section but after previewing the initial release of their software, all I can say is good bye URC and Prodigy. It seems to be missing the ios mobile devices so lets hope that gets addressed quick.

hmmm......Really!

The normal disties selling it?

I cant see how this will sh!t on prodigy but i would like to see what it can do. Hopefully its reliable. Desperately trying to find an alternative to prodigy and i dont want to sell explosives.

Sig
All prodigy has over everybody less c4 is lighting at a cheaper price. RTI os just as capable but you have to go third party for basically everything except D/A.

I need a sub $1k solution with ios capabilities. I also need yo be able to program it quickly.

actually i signed up last night at 145 am and at 2am i had an approval and downloaded the software. Mike approved me.

You and I are in the exact same boat as. i need a Sub 1k Ios system too. Sofware looks cool, i love that we can use the RTI learner to get codes into the system. I also love that we have 2way and 2 RS232 ports. i really want to get my hands on a remote. From the pics they look great and also look like they are nice to hold.

The RTI IR Mega List can be imported into the procontrol programming, I dont know if the auto progromming works with the IR codes but you can use the codes.  I also imported some graphics for backgrounds and buttons and sources

Sig\ling- whats wrong with a XP3+iOS RTI License? Just make one "master" template and cut and paste and re-use !

Im really not understanding this lineup. It makes no sense for us RTI dealers. You guys make like we don't have cheaper 2way options now from RTI !

With the XP3+iOS or even add a VP, the client is saving very little when going with a ProC system. YES they will have a good looking hard button remote, BUT our goal is to get ALL our customers using RTI. We use this entry level package (XP3+iPanel Lic)to customers who are on the fence on a control system, its just to get our foot in the door. We also throw in (2) ra2 dimmers as a 30 day trail, not one customer said take it back yet.

The issue with ProControl is that there are limits, you can only do so much. Once we are in the door with the entry level package, we dont have to worry about saying oh sorry we cant add that, cant add video\DA audio, etc.

Am I off here?

Cams
I have been running numbers.
Cheapest option is xp3 plus t2Cs is over a grand with out the ips license (per device). The full line of RTI starts getting into my Crestron full line. I need a sub $1k$1k system programmed for simple systems. Once you step up to the xp6 (left required fod anything mor han zoneplus receivers things get pricey.

With programming we are almost at an mc3 and mlx3

 I just got an email from RTI to sign up for this and the training.  Isnt this just a Zigbee remote control?  I'm not an RTI dealer, but this doesn't look like a control system to me.  Just a 2 way remote.  I could be wrong, I'm not familiar with RTI equipment as I don't use it.

Hasbeen
Don't use this. I barely can get a project with you taking all of the work in the area. Stay away.

Is the iPanel license price different for ProControl?

I guess you could say its just a Remote, but it does have a processor. I dont think it will ever have inwalls or be able to handle more then a Liv/Patio type setup.

It will be easier to price them out for me when the Surfir comes out and the matching ProControl version. When we do iPanel we dont pair it with touchscreen remotes. So if I price a system out with T1B, XP3, and iPanel its cheaper then the ProControl 2way setup.

Now I am guessing the iPanel on ProControl will take 30 mins to program, but I see no reason for iPanel in a 1 room setup. In a 1 room setup you get AppleTV.

The only thing this ProControl line tells me is that the T2Cs is at least $100 bucks overpriced, which is why I never sell it anyway. If you can sell T2Cs you should have no problem up selling to T2C+.

Which brings me back to what is the purpose of ProControl, and the only logical answer is Best Buy, Amazon, etc here we come.

That's just hurtful.  How am I supposed to complete my plan for world dominance?    

This is my biggest concern. I think its the other way around. RTI is trying to play catchup with the rest and instead of plastering it with "RTI" a damaged brand name they think it will be easier to just rebrand the entire line eventually.

TBH, if you sit a RTI remote next to a mx980, a C4 remote or PTX3 the RTI looks 10 years old. The new pro-control remotes look sleek and sexy.

We'll see where it leads. I feel like the iOS app was first developed for pro control and they moved it over to RTI. Tear the covers off the new processors and i guarantee you will see the identical guts. Albet that integration designer will also be opened up to pro control within the year.

Its simply a rebrand IMO.

So the the T1B works with an XP3?

T1B works with XP-6, so I don't see why not.

Yes it does. I believe you have to connect an RM433 through the sensing input because the XP3 only has a built-in zigbee antenna.