I know we're talking among ourselves here, but if you send a helper out to buy toggles when you mean togglers, you'll be wasting time and money.  So be careful and don't say toggle!  (I just noticed, following this up, that some manufacturers might call togglers toggles.  Damn!

Frinstance:


Vertical, I can't find togglers at Fastenal, and searching for snap gets zero results.  Exactly what do they call them?  Can you supply a link?



And by the way, I could not find anything with "toggle" or "toggler" via the search engine at snap av; nor did the "Hardware" category have any such thing.  Please supply a link for this, and thanks!

I did find this, though: [Link: healthcraftproducts.com].  They call them snaptoggles, which only adds to the possible confusion.


That's cool!  Where did you find them?

Back up and look at cpchillin's signature!

Hilti Togglers all the way. When I first started using them I ordered 20/30 at a time, then found out that they came in boxes of 100. Although they are not cheap (approx $1each) they are the best toggle bolts I have ever used and will not use anything but anymore.  Even the Samsung Puck mounts come with these in the packaging.

Looking on the Hilti website you can now get them in cases of 500 or 250 depending on the screw size.

Been using for years, they are amazing, 1/2 step bit + Hitli Toggle = Condo heaven.

I'm surprised to see that Hilti now calls them toggle bolts. Maybe it's a good thing and those pieces of crap that used to be called toggle bolts are a thing of the past. They should be!

FYI, I suggest settling on 1/4-20 bolts for most things. A chart I've found states that shear strength of these bolts is 200 pounds at the thread root, 370 pounds Full Bolt (whatever that exactly means, I'm not sure, but it's beyond our needs), and tensile strength at the thread root of 160 pounds. Add to this that almost all 1/4-20 bolts have a 7/16" hex head, which just happens to be the same size as an F connector, and my life has been simplified by using them everywhere.

You do have to carry washers, though, as a lot of TV mounts intended for, say, 32" TVs have slots suggesting they want you to use 5/16" bolts. Do we need shear strength of 340 pounds per bolt and tensile strength of 270 pounds per bolt to hold up a 32?

I was going to mention the washers too. A must.

the Hilti website lack's info.

Can you please tell me what part number you have ordered and how long is the screw?

Thanks!

 HD and Lowe's dell the "Togglers" as well.  Depending on what store, they come in a bag or a box.  Gotta keep them in the van.

yes!!! absolutely

Everyone I must thank you for the recommendations. I used the togglers on an install today and I was impressed.

I am impressed.

I use self drilling roofing screws with cyclone rated washers. They are all over the ground at building sites here so really cheap to acquire. I will only use them on steel frames used for structural purposes, not on thin steel holding up stud walls. If the TV is static mount, any old screw will do as long as it goes through a stud and the head is big enough to not pull through the mount. Really big and heavy sets get much stronger fixings though.

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THey are expensive....but for heavier TVs, it might be better safe than the alternative. I have looked at them a lot going down the aisle at HD. Almost bought them several times. One of these days I will give them a shot. They look pretty serious.

Toggler brand snaptogglers!!!!!

Skywalker sells Togglers, too.

They look interesting but $10.00 a pop is pretty expensive.