What I got from the initial posts is that because of the particular sound of Ranger Home's accent, the words he said would be taken by a listener as racist. Not because their content was racist, not because he intended racism, but because one would find it hard to believe a person with that accent could say those things without them being racist. And yeah, right, that does not comment AT ALL on what's going on in RH's head, or whether he's racist.

In fact, it would be racist to assume that, because of his accent, he'd be making racist statements! Unfortunately, we tend to think that racism only has to do with making judgments about black people. Making judgments, such as calling RH a cracker, or assuming by his accent that he's prejudiced -- guess what, folks: that's racist!

Here's one for you: Why the hell do so many of my posts end up at the top of the page? Gee, I think maybe Daniel thinks so highly of me that he's got it worked out that if there are a few posts on a page, and then I post, mine will automatically be used to head a new page.

Sounds a bit logical, right? And I HAVE seen A LOT of my posts at the top of the page.

However, a bit of scrutiny will show that I post A LOT, and as there are about fifteen posts per page, chances are that one out of fifteen of my posts will be at the top of the page.

See there? One might conclude based on the evidence that Daniel is prejudiced toward me -- but further examination shows that's not at all true.

You'd better look deep within yourself before you call someone a racist. You'd better question the other person, too. And I don't mean hear them once and accuse, I mean have a discussion wherein you ASK what the motive is and what the thought process is behind the statement.

When I read that comment I saw it like Stamp, as a craiglist thing, not a racist thing.

Im so sick and tired of political correct Bull Shit. Everyone assumes this or that and that we are out to get a certain race. Reading these comments, especially about the earrings solidified what the typical Craigslist "pros" look like.

These guys atleast are trying, there website isnt the **worst** i have ever seen either. They try to be professional with a polo and dickies. There installation is a joke but if there customers are happy with the finished product then so be it. They are not the kind of customers we/I would want anyway.

I did not think that his comment was even remotely racist either. The only comment's that were messed up were the ones at the cake boss guys. They are genuinely professional from their website to them taking the picture with the Boss. That was so ridiculously tacky that I did say to my self "WOW really dude" after i read that comment. I know that you were trying to be funny but those guys are pros and didnt deserve to be associated with these jokers. However, that being said i dont think you were being racist in your comment to associate them :)

Jesus guys, this is ridiculous. Lets just make fun of them and there installs.

So Sig what do these guys have in common with the guys from 360 Media?
location?
brands carried?
Logo?

If no then what? The Cake Boss comments are as wrong as they can

This thread would have been awesome if not for the total deviation.
The wire mold is completely ridiculous :-)

+1 Ernie. I'll add that the internet is a great place but it lacks alot of the human element whereby misinterpretation can easily happen. When someone makes a comment and we can't see their body language; can't hear their tone, can't see their eyes etc. it is very easy to assume what the person meant. This is a pefect example.

i am double facepalming right now...  

keep on posting Ranger, the guys that saw racism have their heads so far up their asses, that all they see is black.

Spare us the victimhood. You made a statement that any reasonable person could construe as racist:

Honey, what happened to those diamond ear rings you got me for our 15th that were in my nightstand?

Is it because they're hackers on Craigslist or because they're black, or both? You made no comment about sloppy installation, no comment about the president, and I did not see any sloppy installation so I wasn't assuming your comment was about sloppy installation. It wasn't all that awesome with Panduit/raceway, but it's not what I would call sloppy. I saw a comment about theft. I looked at the ad: for a hacky Craigslist ad they sure put enough effort into it and linked it to a real website. Maybe not the the best website, but hey, they're trying. But I guess they must be thieves too? Riiiiiight.

Complaints about 'everything is about race' seem sorta odd. It's also a very common response from real racists when you call them on their shit, but I'm still reserving the benefit of the doubt for you. Race is still an issue in our society (as in every society) so that statement seem oblivious to that fact. You can thank all the bigots for that, there still seem to be many around, you should complain about the real racists who made or still make 'everything about race' instead of people who might mistake a statement as racist. Complaining about people who made the mistake (if it was a mistake) thinking it was a racially tinged statement is actually pretty ignorant when considering what our society has been through and is still dealing with now. If people made the mistake you should understand this and lay off the whining victimhood of being called a racist on a forum: it's nothing compared to being victimized by real racism.

So quit the flipping around and suck it up and just say 'it was just about them being hackers on Craigslist, not about race' and let it die instead of complaining about being labeled a racist and being able to criticize Obama without being called a racist. Maybe you should think about what you say before you type it, think 'can this be construed as racist?' If yes, then don't type it. But if you type it, and it's considered racist, don't complain about it and cry foul of people who made the mistake. You made the mistake.

You are not the victim here and people who thought what you said was racist are not the problem here.

Ernie, I got no 'accent' from the post. I don't know where Ranger is from and it really doesn't matter. I made an assumption out of the situation at hand and the words he himself typed.

I find it odd that we are supposed to give Ranger the benefit of the doubt that he's not a bigot, yet if somebody mistakes what he said they are accused of 'turning everything into race' and all sorts of other crap about criticizing Obama.

So my previous post is a response to you too.

This is exactly why you should read what you type before you post it. Your words are not painted by anything else. This is the purest medium: no skin color, accent, nose rings, or Armani suits. No $. That stuff does not matter.

Just our words and the meanings they construct.

When I saw the photos of the installs, I had the same thought that ranger had. Then when I saw the photos that included people presumed to be the installers, I decided to not share the thought due to the over sensitive individuals here that I knew would cry racism. Personally, I wonder if those crying racism are really the biggest racists and are afraid someone may see them laugh at a joke about a stereotype.

It shows that you were being sensitive Fins. Ironically you were being sensitive to today's realities by not responding but still felt the need to antagonize people that won't give you a free pass commenting with your own racist stereotypes.

Two begrudging steps forward, if one step back.

But what's most puzzling about your comment is 'people who cry racism are really the biggest racists and afraid somebody may see them laugh at a stereotype.' Please elaborate, because it seems like simplistic unthinking projection more than anything else.

Not to mention I find nothing funny about stereotypes of black people stealing shit. Just n***** jokes without the n***** in it.

Do you guys really want to keep doubling down on this?

Look who's doing the crying: people who just want to 'LOL about stereotypes.'

LOL.....you crack me up

Back on topic......did you guys see the panduit around the brick L.O.L.

Honestly I didn't really see 'hack' work. The guys were using wire raceway which is more than a lot of real 'hacks' would use. They might learn to run wiring inside the walls but that takes more time and induces more risk plus has code issues with electrical. I don't know about Greensboro code.

When I think hack I think not trying. These guys are trying: add on Craigslit, pictures of installs (with their faces in it), clean cut, and linking to a real website that does have flaws but is a good attempt.

I don't find these guys worthy of the ridicule, maybe some criticism, but not the ridicule they are getting. I'm wondering if they ever came to this forum: will they read through a few posts and think 'WTF is this place' or will they see through the mockery and tinge of racism (I doubt they'll be upset about all the people that 'cry racism and make everything about race').

It really wasn't that bad, they seem to be trying. I'd love for them to come here and be part of the community and raise their game.

Move on folks.