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Bundled Cable or Individual Spools? Preference
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Post 16 made on Saturday August 20, 2011 at 00:29
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 We pulled bi odes cable once and haven't since, but I would consider it if it made sense. Two main reasons, we use cat 6 for data and cat 5 for phone (sometimes cat 6 for everything). And we run all data lines to the rack while phone and cable/sat go to cans.

If a rack isn't going in then we'll put in a separate data SP. if we do use bundle, we be sure to split/peel back the cables a foot or two before where it comes out of the wall and each cable gets it's own unique label.
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Post 17 made on Saturday August 20, 2011 at 01:38
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On August 19, 2011 at 23:15, TRCGroup said...
Biggest bundle I ever handled was a 5000' spool of 25 pair of Cat5e direct burial. It took 3 of us just to get it out of the van, ( they used a forklift to load it).

At that length it's not really Category 5e anymore!
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Post 18 made on Saturday August 20, 2011 at 01:46
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Singles always. Makes more sense!
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Post 19 made on Saturday August 20, 2011 at 08:48
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Bundled cable only makes sense if you have a smaller home with one SWP.

A 250' roll of bundled cable is heavy and should not be carried by one guy. I'd rather make two trips carrying two roller boxes of 1000' cable. I've also done some math on $ and logistics and it's more expensive to cable this way.

The only benefit I see is that when bundled the UTP/Coax kink less.

For the most part bundled cable seems to be a great idea for people who don't do this for a living.
Post 20 made on Saturday August 20, 2011 at 15:48
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singles in boxes is preferred and for security, speed bags are preferred, they take up much less space than boxes. i have a tool box that i carry all of my 22/2 and 22/4 in.

volume controls get a simese 16/4 + cat5 and analog cameras get a RG59 + 18/2.
Post 21 made on Saturday August 20, 2011 at 16:42
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Agree with Chris, 16/4 + cat 5 for volume, RG59-18/2 for cams a must for us. just easier.

Have ALWAYS done singles. But, just ordered two rolls of RG6QS+3 cats. Since we run that plus another cat to each tv location, thought I would give it a try. Might regret it!

Coax for OTA
Cat5 for HDTV balun
Cat5 for IP
Cat5 for IR
Cat5 for spare/future or need for dual cat balun

Whats up with all the coax runs to each room some noted?? We run one coax to each TV location but it rarely ever gets used unless customer wants OTA. Of course, this is a distributed audio/video spec.
Post 22 made on Saturday August 20, 2011 at 20:28
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Individual Cables and always on Spools. or boxes that have spools in them.
Post 23 made on Sunday August 21, 2011 at 05:14
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I've never found structured cable that was less expensive than individual runs.
Remember that most of the structured cable is 500', where as cat5e & RG6 boxes or spools are 1000'. So if you add 1 box of cat5e and 1 box of RG6 and compare it to a 2+2 structured cable, you'll see that it's more.

The only time I've used structured cable was when homeowner or builder insisted on pulling their own cable, or had electrician do it. Structured cable is as others stated easier to maintain bend ratios and has an extra outer jacket for protection. No, I've never tried to use the heat (or glue) bonded cable, or the one that has that nylon webbing.
Post 24 made on Sunday August 21, 2011 at 05:19
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Oh, I forgot to add to my previous post.
Last year I used structured cable on a project where flat roof was being repaired and roofers (workers) needed to be able to lay cable a bit at a time (yes, as a single piece of cable).
Client also wanted to prewire for fiber, so I got 2 Cat5e, 2 RG6 and 2 multistrand fiber bundled cable for that project.

No way was I going to let roofers handle fiber by itself. Structured cable offered better protection and easier installation as it was just one cable as far as the workers were concerned.

No, running conduit and fishing the wires later was not an option.
Post 25 made on Monday August 22, 2011 at 21:33
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the only thing structure wire spools are good for is seats at lunch time on prewires
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Post 26 made on Monday August 22, 2011 at 22:42
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On August 22, 2011 at 21:33, brucewayne said...
the only thing structure wire spools are good for is seats at lunch time on prewires

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