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Outdoor in-walls....?
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Post 1 made on Wednesday August 17, 2011 at 19:01
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 I wont go into the what,when,why, or how but I need a pair of outdoor in-walls that I cant seem to find.....anyone know of any that won't kill the budget?
Maybe a set of episodes and some silicone??
Any ideas?
Post 2 made on Wednesday August 17, 2011 at 19:07
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4 years ago i installed a pair of Speakercraft MT6-Three outside... Not designed for that, but after 4 years of Quebec's four seasons, summer at 36C and winters at -35C, they still work fine.

I think Niles have some outdoor in-ceiling speakers but not sure about the in-walls...
OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday August 17, 2011 at 20:32
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did you do anything different with them.....silicone or any type of sealant?
Post 4 made on Wednesday August 17, 2011 at 21:49
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Episode/snap has an in ceiling all weather speaker. Pretty nice used them the other day
Post 5 made on Wednesday August 17, 2011 at 21:54
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Terra has some in-wall and in-ceiling speakers.

Also, Sonance Extremes are designed for this type of abuse.
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Post 6 made on Wednesday August 17, 2011 at 21:58
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On August 17, 2011 at 20:32, Zohan said...
did you do anything different with them.....silicone or any type of sealant?

No. Nothing special.
Post 7 made on Wednesday August 17, 2011 at 23:26
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Post 8 made on Wednesday August 17, 2011 at 23:30
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Covered or not covered? Covered or protected any inwall will work, although I would guess its R rating for insulation would be very very low with an insulated back box.

I have use in ceiling speakers all the time outside(bit deeper than an inwall) but most have aluminum grills and uv protected plastics and poly cones and butyl (sp) surrounds ALl of which are the same as "marine" speakers. Most with any sort of protection will last 5-10 years.
Post 9 made on Wednesday August 17, 2011 at 23:39
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If you want to use Terra or Sonance; I believe you can be a a little creative while you are out in the field.  You can achieve this task by using rectangle speaker grills on round speakers.  As long as the grills are big enough to cover the coaxial speaker's diameter. 

Mount some rare earth magnets on the wall surroung the speakes. If the grills are metal, the rare earth magnet wills hold the grills in place.  Or you can atach the same number of magnets on the grills with Gorilla glue, but do watch out for the magnets' polarity.
Post 10 made on Wednesday August 17, 2011 at 23:49
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Indigo, how many grills aren't aluminum these days? Why would he put rectangular grills on a circular speaker? 99% are built nearly the same with UV resistant plastics, aluminum grills, and butyl rubber surrounds. I usually install round (in-ceiling) speakers in soffits, or bead boarded covered areas

99% of speakers these days rely on compression fit for the grills, no need for magnets, if they dont fit real tight, take your cutters, and put a few bends in the aluminum and reinsert
Post 11 made on Thursday August 18, 2011 at 00:10
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Crazyone, I was just sugggest on being creative; but did not recommended.

Lately, I use quite a bit of rimless speakers, so most grills have magnets attached to them.  When I first use Tru-Audio about 4 yrs ago, grills were magneted.  I just went back a couple weeks ago due to AT& U-verse router was bricked.  I noticed Tru-Audio were mounted at the deck's cover are indeed still intact.

FYI... beside Tru, manufacturers like Boston, Polk are now starting to use magnets on their grills...
Post 12 made on Thursday August 18, 2011 at 00:24
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Not starting, they have always used magnetic grills on towers, and inwalls. (HATE my father atlantic speakers with magnetic grills, you barely touch them and they fall off) I like a more permanent compression fit. to each their own though.

Magnetic grills are aesthetic when the grill is off and useless otherwise
Post 13 made on Thursday August 18, 2011 at 00:42
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Who remembers M&K SW150's? Those would just about take a finger off when you put the grills on.
I have some Speakercraft CR6.4 speakers installed in my soffits for 8 years with no problems. I put a THIN bead of silicone around the flange and all is good. They are protected from direct light and spray from the rain but they still sound fine. In my professional life i have installed Speakercrafts in outdoor walls with no ill effect. I tell people they are "5 year speakers".
OP | Post 14 made on Thursday August 18, 2011 at 09:16
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Thanks guys.... Sonance is a little out of budget for this one....it's a summer house and he doesnt want to go "overboard".
I'm doing a 5 zone Nuvo grand concerto, 1 zone is just 1 set of in walls by pool area...get this, only wants 1 touchpad in kitchen for all 5 zones......
Also doing a small media room 5.1 system.....I'm thinking throwing in a pair of episode in walls outside and see what happens, will be a good experiment to see how long they last.... :)
Post 15 made on Thursday August 18, 2011 at 18:52
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On August 17, 2011 at 20:32, Zohan said...
did you do anything different with them.....silicone or any type of sealant?

In the old days when some of these speakers had paper woofer cones, I would liberally spray them down (and the grilles) with silicone shoe spray to repel water and give them a few extra years, and keep the grills from rusting... Worked pretty well. I'd also spray the back of the speakers and put silicone on the terminals where the wire connected and hose down the crossover circuit boards.

Last edited by Mr. Stanley on August 18, 2011 19:31.
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