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Post 16 made on Thursday July 21, 2011 at 22:44
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I have had it for the droid for a couple months now, only used for smaller transactions, I have the "Square" free slider now, but I think i am going to switch to the quickbooks version intuit, I think.

Post 17 made on Thursday July 21, 2011 at 22:48
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On July 21, 2011 at 22:44, electrician said...
I have had it for the droid for a couple months now, only used for smaller transactions, I have the "Square" free slider now, but I think i am going to switch to the quickbooks version intuit, I think.

Why are you thinking of switching? I believe the % is the same per transaction, and Quickbooks takes at least 2 days to deposit. (as opposed to 1 with Square)

What are your concerns?  Or have you had problems with it? Or is it just convenience to have it directly in QB.

Post 18 made on Thursday July 21, 2011 at 23:03
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On July 21, 2011 at 22:48, Hasbeen said...
Why are you thinking of switching? I believe the % is the same per transaction, and Quickbooks takes at least 2 days to deposit. (as opposed to 1 with Square)

What are your concerns?  Or have you had problems with it? Or is it just convenience to have it directly in QB.


ONLY for the convenience to have it all on QB. No problems, and one or two days isn't an issue for us.

Post 19 made on Saturday July 23, 2011 at 02:08
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So you set up the transaction in your iPhone, and client signs on your phone w/ their finger?
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
Post 20 made on Saturday July 23, 2011 at 09:11
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On July 23, 2011 at 02:08, Tom Ciaramitaro said...
So you set up the transaction in your iPhone, and client signs on your phone w/ their finger?

Yes.
I usually use a tablet and a stylus just for the bigger screen.
Post 21 made on Sunday July 24, 2011 at 05:45
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I still don't understand how you guys can eat 3% from your profits just for the transaction handling.

If I worked 8 hours at $75/Hr, than I bill $600. Loosing $18 bucks just for transaction fee that can be revoked just seems like a bunch of money I could use to buy myself a lunch or two.
Put it another way, it's $600 on a $20K job.

And lets not forget that you get charged on the whole transaction, including sales tax, so it's really higher than it appears, right?
Say I sold an item that cost me $800 for a $1,000. That's $200 profit. Tax a modest 7% on $1,000 is 70 bucks. 3% transaction fee on $1070 is $32.10. So now my $200 profit is $168. I just lost 16% off of my profit margin because I accepted credit card.

I know some will say, raise your price to cover. I'm already losing jobs because client's say they can't afford this or that; yes, we know better.

Others will say give them discount for cash transaction since most states (including mine) don’t allow to charge more for CC transactions. "OK, Mr. client, that will be $51.50, but we'll give you 3% off if you pay cash, or $50." All he remembers is that I was in the fifties, and my competitor at $49.99 was in the forties.

Maybe it's the instant payment that saves the headaches of tracking clients down weeks or months later about outstanding balance, and getting the "check it in the mail" stories that attracts CC transactions. Is that it for you guys?

Isn't there a service that will charge small fee per transaction? Like stock market with their $7 per transaction fee, no matter if you trade 1 share or a million?
Post 22 made on Sunday July 24, 2011 at 22:53
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Not everyone has their check book handy but everyone seems to have their credit cards VERY handy
A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.
Post 23 made on Sunday July 24, 2011 at 23:14
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And the fees are a business expense. I know it's not a big deal, but it's a deduction. Our bread and butter is $5k-10k jobs. I can count on one hand the number of people who have written a check in the last 2 years.
OP | Post 24 made on Tuesday July 26, 2011 at 16:42
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I'm certainly not looking for everyone to pay by credit card.
I don't like the fees either.
My main goal is to attract new customers.
Will they be high end clients? Low end? Who knows.
What's the profile of a credit card payer opposed to someone who pays by check? I bet they're all the same.
I know from experience it's easier to spend more with plastic.
By not taking credit cards I may be missing that boat.
I also think it may add some legitimacy. "Hey" these guys are for real not some fly by night operation.
If I get a few new CC jobs here and there Great.
A new customer is a new customer.
My updated newspaper ad comes out this week.
I'll be waiting by the phone. LOL
  

  
Instead of asking me why my price is high ask the other guys why they are low.
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Post 25 made on Tuesday July 26, 2011 at 17:20
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On July 24, 2011 at 05:45, mariomp said...
I still don't understand how you guys can eat 3% from your profits just for the transaction handling.

I do my best to account for it during the "walk-through".  I'll generally try to bring the conversation around to how they're paying.

If I worked 8 hours at $75/Hr, than I bill $600. Loosing $18 bucks just for transaction fee that can be revoked just seems like a bunch of money I could use to buy myself a lunch or two.
Put it another way, it's $600 on a $20K job.

You're charging $11. per hr. under the national average.  Maybe it's time to raise your rates?
And lets not forget that you get charged on the whole transaction, including sales tax, so it's really higher than it appears, right?
Say I sold an item that cost me $800 for a $1,000. That's $200 profit. Tax a modest 7% on $1,000 is 70 bucks. 3% transaction fee on $1070 is $32.10. So now my $200 profit is $168. I just lost 16% off of my profit margin because I accepted credit card.

I know some will say, raise your price to cover. I'm already losing jobs because client's say they can't afford this or that; yes, we know better. 

Losing clients because you're too expensive is generally a false statement.  We all lose prospective clients. They will tell us that we are too expensive, but that's generally not the reason. (They may not have the money, so anything is too expensive)  People buy on emotion and justify it with logic. I mean no offense by this statement whatsoever.  I would buy a book on sales. I can recommend a few excellent easy reads. PM me.  Bottom line, if you hear..."You're too expensive" alot.  It's something else, not the price.

Others will say give them discount for cash transaction since most states (including mine) don’t allow to charge more for CC transactions. "OK, Mr. client, that will be $51.50, but we'll give you 3% off if you pay cash, or $50." All he remembers is that I was in the fifties, and my competitor at $49.99 was in the forties.

My Doctor doesn't give me a discount, why should I give him one?  

Maybe it's the instant payment that saves the headaches of tracking clients down weeks or months later about outstanding balance, and getting the "check it in the mail" stories that attracts CC transactions. Is that it for you guys?

In 25 years, I've only had to chase 1 guy down for payment.  I actually posted about it on here because I had no idea what to do.  We accept a deposit before work starts, and we collect on completion.  The only time we'd let someone mail us a check is if they're a previous V.I.P client.  But you have to set the expectations up front before work starts. 

Isn't there a service that will charge a small fee per transaction? Like stock market with their $7 per transaction fee, no matter if you trade 1 share or a million?

There may be, I don't know.

Post 26 made on Tuesday July 26, 2011 at 19:37
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i find that my most jobs ranging from 5-10k are credit card 10-24k are check and 25k and up are back on credit cards...of course there are exceptions to all my clients.

after I estimate the estimate i then tack on 3%; this covers me for my credit card fee's and if they pay by cash/check the money i make on the 3% always covers my time in line at the bank to deposit. it doesnt require any effort on my part to collect money from the CC companies.

i DO NOT offer cash discounts, i used to until i got smart ;) All the brick and mortar stores don't give cast discounts, why should I have to. My experience with CC's are if your customer pays by one they WILL purchase the remote upgrade or speaker upgrades right before i key their card in.

Im buying an ipad, my fees for intuit are .10% lower however if i dont have a monthy transaction then i get charged a service fee. Looks like ill be trying Square ;)
The Bitterness of Poor Quality is Remembered Long after the Sweetness of Price is Forgotten! - Benjamin Franklin
Post 27 made on Tuesday July 26, 2011 at 22:13
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whoa...i just got this email, and ill definatly qualify for the 1000/month swiped rates at 1.7% is excelent!

[Link: intuit-gopayment.com]
The Bitterness of Poor Quality is Remembered Long after the Sweetness of Price is Forgotten! - Benjamin Franklin
Post 28 made on Wednesday July 27, 2011 at 03:52
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On July 26, 2011 at 22:13, SignatureSV said...
whoa...i just got this email, and ill definatly qualify for the 1000/month swiped rates at 1.7% is excelent!

[Link: intuit-gopayment.com]

There is a monthly fee, but like you said, 1% savings with anything greater than $1295/mo saves you money.
Post 29 made on Wednesday July 27, 2011 at 08:31
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My Doctor doesn't give me a discount, why should I give him one?  

Have you ever asked your doctor for a discount? Believe it or not A LOT of doctors will give a discount when paying with cash. I had a ruptured achillies tendon and out of my pocket I paid almost $2600 after insurance.

I was joking with the doctor at a follow up visit and asked about discounts and He told me I could have had the complete surgery if paid up front for $2k.

Go figure. Never hurts to ask!!
Post 30 made on Wednesday October 26, 2011 at 13:45
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I noticed a Square email mentioning they will not hold funds as before.

Are you still having good results with Square?
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
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