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BD Player is 60' away...What would you do ??
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Post 1 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 16:19
rixhifi
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Designing an install,,but the client wants the BD player( not spected yet) installed in the kitchen pantry as the rack is in the mech room (basement). Installing the new Yamaha Aventage series receiver....
What Would You Do ?.................
Post 2 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 16:26
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I have done 60' HDMI with no problem if you get good cables. I have used snxp av cables. Problem can be HDMI can have a plethora of issues when down the road you may lose picture so I would set the install with a couple of extra Cat5 for future HDMI baluns or make sure you have the ability to run/replace cables running from the display/projector to the equipment location. A lot of the guys use baluns just to avoid the future problems that HDMI potentially has in certain install applications.
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Post 3 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 16:32
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Install the best future proof cable there is: conduit.

And then run a quality hdmi cable and several cat6 stp.
Post 4 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 16:59
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On January 4, 2011 at 16:32, tweeterguy said...
Install the best future proof cable there is: conduit.

And then run a quality hdmi cable and several cat6 stp.

+1 on conduit. Just make sure you use a big enough diameter so if you had to pull another cable (HDMI or whatever) the head of the cable won't get stuck inside the conduit when you attempt to pull through a bend in the conduit.
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Post 5 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 17:15
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ohh and to clarify...conduit plus the cabling....not cabling inside conduit (unless of course you are installing two and/or are required by code to do so).
Post 6 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 17:32
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On January 4, 2011 at 16:19, rixhifi said...
Designing an install,,but the client wants the BD player( not spected yet) installed in the kitchen pantry as the rack is in the mech room (basement). Installing the new Yamaha Aventage series receiver....
What Would You Do ?.................

This is simple, hire a pro if you don't know this simple simple install
OP | Post 7 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 17:42
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I was just looking for some new tricks from the trade...........So I guess nothing new
Post 8 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 18:33
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60' is on the edge of needing an HDMI restorer. I would consider going with an ethereal balun.
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Post 9 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 19:46
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I like the Binary/Sn*p HDMI baluns. Key Digital and Ethereal are both good as well.



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Post 10 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 20:43
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Indi, this is what I keep asking myself in this forum... why would you give an answer like that. you took the time, wrote, replied. so give the guy the answer he's looking for.

Back to the topic, i had situations like this many times, and i agree with a good HDMI and a couple cat-5s. for several reasons, backup for the hdmi baluns if the cable fails, ethernet for the BD internet capability and IR control.
Post 11 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 21:02
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Have sold quite a few and they do work.
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Post 12 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 22:04
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On January 4, 2011 at 16:19, rixhifi said...
Designing an install,,but the client wants the BD player( not spected yet) installed in the kitchen pantry as the rack is in the mech room (basement). Installing the new Yamaha Aventage series receiver....
What Would You Do ?.................

Heck, I don't even get the setup yet. Client wants a BD in the kitchen pantry. Where's the monitor? Is it in the kitchen, or "kitchen adjacent"? I'm guessing they want it in the kitchen because that is much more convenient for, say putting in a disc, than tromping downstairs to the rack.

So, if the kitchen pantry is near the display but far from the rack, run HDMI from the BD player to the display and run coaxial audio back to the rack.

Or, please, explain the thing a bit more clearly.



I guess I'm out of it right now -- this didn't clarify anything for me:

On January 4, 2011 at 17:15, tweeterguy said...
ohh and to clarify...conduit plus the cabling....not cabling inside conduit (unless of course you are installing two and/or are required by code to do so).

This seems to say run a cable and also run a conduit, that is, run the cable and also install an empty conduit. Why?

Since we're usually recommending 1 1/2" or larger conduit for HDMI replaceability, why not run the cable in the conduit?
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Post 13 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 23:06
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On January 4, 2011 at 20:43, Techsquad said...
Indi, this is what I keep asking myself in this forum... why would you give an answer like that. you took the time, wrote, replied. so give the guy the answer he's looking for.

Back to the topic, i had situations like this many times, and i agree with a good HDMI and a couple cat-5s. for several reasons, backup for the hdmi baluns if the cable fails, ethernet for the BD internet capability and IR control.

Tech,

+1 on that. I think Indi's response was a little catty...
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Post 14 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 23:17
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On January 4, 2011 at 22:04, Ernie Bornn-Gilman said...
Heck, I don't even get the setup yet. Client wants a BD in the kitchen pantry. Where's the monitor? Is it in the kitchen, or "kitchen adjacent"? I'm guessing they want it in the kitchen because that is much more convenient for, say putting in a disc, than tromping downstairs to the rack.

So, if the kitchen pantry is near the display but far from the rack, run HDMI from the BD player to the display and run coaxial audio back to the rack.

Or, please, explain the thing a bit more clearly.

My guess (because he didnt clarify) is that the client wants his distributed Blu-ray player to be on the first floor where its easy to access for all first floor viewing rooms. To make that BD player available in the family room and the kitchen they will need to wire the BD player back to the rack then into the matrix switch.

I guess I'm out of it right now -- this didn't clarify anything for me:

This seems to say run a cable and also run a conduit, that is, run the cable and also install an empty conduit. Why?

Since we're usually recommending 1 1/2" or larger conduit for HDMI replaceability, why not run the cable in the conduit?

If the walls are open it makes more sense to run the cable outside of the conduit so that you have the entire conduit at your disposal if you need it. We do this all the time. It was really important with DVI.
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Post 15 made on Tuesday January 4, 2011 at 23:17
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On January 4, 2011 at 23:06, william david design said...
Tech,

+1 on that. I think Indi's response was a little catty...

I think your response is a little catty...
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