I have a rack in the basement that covers 5 individual video zones on 3
different floors. I originally planned to have a hard wired antenna on each
floor going back to one main av2.

In systembuiider , it automatically adds antennas as I add devices but it only
adds one antenna and I can't figure out how to add more and how to assign
specific devices to each antenna.

Any help would be appreciated.

in equipment view, click on equipment icon above equipment tree. right click on enet card and click new. ex gateway should be an option. let it in there.

Awesome it was there thanks. Now how do i choose which infinet ex device talks to which infinet ex antenna? I looked around and couldn't figure it out.

Also what does remote ethernet processing mean?
I noticed when i right click on c2enet and choose new it allows me to add other processors. What would I use that for?

I was under the impression that to use more then one processor on a job via system builder I had to export and import devices between files ? (remote export)

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So believe it or not system builder currently has a bug that prevents me from doing what I need.

I could add new antennas no problem ,
And then I can drag dimex dimmers between antennas no problem,
But I can not drag mtx-3 remotes between each antenna.

They told me it's a bug (confirmed by several people at crestron).
For now, every time I compile the system,
I have to open the compiled file in sw, create a new remote on. He antenna I need, make sure it has the same ID as the one I'm replacing, copy and paste all the feedback and button presses between remotes, and delete the old one.

I need to do this every time I need to upload till they fix the bug (for this specific job at least).

Remote Ethernet Processing:

Slave processors. If your system requires more control ports ( IR, DIO, relay, or serial ) than the processor defined has you can add an other device and slave it to the main unit. Prodigy did not support this feature though new firmware permitting this may have come out. But you can drag in CNX-RMC, which, while Cresnet devices, are in fact slave processors. You get 4 ir ports and a single serial port. You could hang a QM-RMC off the main processor, gain 4 DIO ports, 2 serial and 1 ir ( on which you could stack drivers ) and locate the device in the local room. Since the connection to the main system is via Ethernet, you don't have to run all those extra control wires or worry about serial distance limitations.

In the old days, SB would just add in slave processors when you exceeded the native number of ports on the processor. Now it asks you how you want to handle the issue, say by stacking ir drivers on a port.

Use of slave processors--cannot load a progrm, you lose Cresnet but you have full access to all built-in ports on the processor ( even RF gateways ) allows you a lot of design freedom for dealing with jobs with decentralized equipment.

Alan

so . . i might have been doing things all wrong in system builder for the past few months . .

i had a situation where i had 4 seperate processors in different parts of the house.
qm rmc im master
qm rmc in den
qm rmc in theater
cp2e in rack (for lighting , relays, etc)

i was told by crestron that i couldnt have multiple processors in one system and i had to make 4 separate systems...

he told me once i made each seperate system,
i then had to do an export of the sytems and import in to eachother . .
(i forget exactly how its named in system builder)

could i have just used the cp2e as the main processor and made the qmrmc's slaves this entire time and just had one system?

everything i did worked the way they told me to do it,
and im done with that project already.
but i just started a larger project and began programming that way as well . .
im not too far in where i could back out now and do it with a main and slaves.

the new project has
2 AV2's (with ethernet)
and
2 qmrmc's

The decision to go with slave processors or masters and rsd between is a design decision. There are valid reasons to go with one over the other in any particular job. If you have Crestron devices in 2 separate locations that involve penetrations you might prefer to have 2 master processors connected via fber Ethernet. You could then hang local Cresnet devices in both locations. Since the interconnecting wire between those processors in fiber you've interconnected both systems without introducing any surge issues. But in the jobs you've described above, if all you need are local serial and ir ports it is generally simpler to make those local processors slaves of the master.

SB can deal with rsd files or slaves. Till recently, you could not legally hang slave processors off a Prodigy master. But if you have a non-Prodigy processor of any type, you can hang quite a few slaves off of the master. If I'm talking to a chatty sub-system I might keep the sub-system code in a QM-RMC, keeping it a master, and X-Sig back to the main processor. If I had a ton of TSTATs I could justify placing them on to their own MC2E or PAC2M, and X-SIG (rsd) back to the master. If I had an Adagio and was running out of memory, using a second master can make design sense. But if all you need is local or addional ports there are advantages to using slave processors. All work is done in a single program rather than multiple units.

Alan

What do you mean by dragging MTX-3 devices between the antennas. I just did an adagio job with 4 MTX-3's. I could go int equipment view and drag the MTX-3 onto whatever antenna I needed it to go on.

sooo are you saying that the slave processors loose the ability to be a processor and instead acts as a dumb terminal whoring out its ports to its master ?

if im loosing the proccesin power of the slaves it feels counter intuitive . .
with all these two way devices and ip controls and how chatty these pioneer tv's are (i still cant figure out why they keep spitting out status every 30 seconds) . .

what!? in system builder?
i cant get it done and neither can any one at crestron !!

how long ago was this?
can you try and duplicate it now?
what version of SB are you using ?

Yes.


You can continue to allow it to be a master, but then you have to X-Sig or rsd between the 2 processors. That is a lot more work but it can be necessary. Or use something like a CNX-RMC, don't use the video ports, and attain the same ir and serial ports. I have no clue as to how this is counter-intuitive but I also don't care. This is reality.

Alan

maybe i meant counter productive if i do indeed need the processing power at each location.

ok thanks alan... much appreciated.

Obviously, if you need the processing power keep the unit a master. Somehow I doubt you really need all that power. I recently coded an Adagio System. 12 audio zones plus 6 additional sub-zones ( don't ask--I didn't design it. I just made it work ), 80 zones of lighting ( via lighting processor but individual control over all 80 loads ) pool control, security control, 5 video zones, 3 surround receivers, AppleTV control via Autonmic Controls all on a 66mips AES plus 3 CNX-RMC for local ir. OK, security and pool were moved to the lighting processor. 6 touch panels, 5 APADs, 3 ML600s and an xpanel.

I suspect if one can accoplish this with 2 processors it's unlikely you'll find yourself in need of addional processing power but it's possible. I find myself needing more ports far more often than I need processing power. Your systems could be different than mine.

Alan

I am using the current version of system builder. You should be able to drag any MTX-3 to what ever antenna you need it on. The MTX-3 talks to whatever antenna it is listed under. When you first build the system it adds the antenna ( I think 5 devices per antenna). I added another antenna and then dragged the MTX-3's onto the new antenna. It is doable and I have done it. I have four MTX-3's and two infinet gateways. Each gateway has two remotes on it.