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Post 46 made on Tuesday November 23, 2010 at 19:27
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Matt,

Thanks so much for all the info! I really appreciate it!
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Post 47 made on Thursday November 25, 2010 at 13:28
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Im confused, bought the avr 3311 november 01, dealer says i should have a free update but redirects me to Germany, since we dont have a Dutch importer anymore. Write email to denon germany, get reply "the upgrade will be availeble nov.20" Its now 25 november still no update. Write germany again, now the answer is i should go to my dealer.....Is this to keep the customer busy till the update FINALY comes??
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Post 48 made on Thursday November 25, 2010 at 19:39
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On November 25, 2010 at 13:28, super grover said...
Im confused, bought the avr 3311 november 01, dealer says i should have a free update but redirects me to Germany, since we dont have a Dutch importer anymore. Write email to denon germany, get reply "the upgrade will be availeble nov.20" Its now 25 november still no update. Write germany again, now the answer is i should go to my dealer.....Is this to keep the customer busy till the update FINALY comes??

Not sure what the launch date is in Germany. The date for the USA is Dec. 1.
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Post 49 made on Tuesday December 14, 2010 at 16:27
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Hey Matt,

How's it going. I was just wondering, it's mid-December and it doesn't look like the update is out yet. Do you have any inside info re: a release date?

Thanks, as usual.
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Post 50 made on Tuesday December 14, 2010 at 18:20
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No info at the moment here. I thought this was a go back in Nov. We can't launch until the other party approves.
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Post 51 made on Wednesday December 22, 2010 at 10:42
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Wow... I forgot I had posted this question a few days ago! Thanks for reponding, Matt.
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Post 52 made on Friday January 7, 2011 at 07:52
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Denon+Airplay is now available!

[Link: usa.denon.com]

Last edited by M Hi Fi on January 7, 2011 08:40.
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Post 53 made on Tuesday January 11, 2011 at 04:40
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Why is it $50? I bought two of these (3311 and a 4311) because it was touted that the Airplay feature would be a free firmware update.

Last edited by haywood69 on January 11, 2011 04:50.
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Post 54 made on Tuesday January 11, 2011 at 08:24
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On January 11, 2011 at 04:40, haywood69 said...
Why is it $50? I bought two of these (3311 and a 4311) because it was touted that the Airplay feature would be a free firmware update.

Where and who touted it to be free?
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Post 55 made on Tuesday January 11, 2011 at 13:03
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you bought $3,200 worth of Denon receivers because there was a free apple airplay update planned? so you would have bought something different or nothing at all if it had been known that it was going to be a $50 upgrade? which it was pretty well known.
I love supporting product that supports me!
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Post 56 made on Tuesday January 11, 2011 at 13:57
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It was advertised at CEDIA and on our website as $50 MSRP for the Upgrade.

Dealers have a demo program, for demo use. Dealers should email me for info.

You could always get the same feature from Apple for $100!

Last edited by M Hi Fi on January 11, 2011 14:22.
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OP | Post 57 made on Tuesday January 11, 2011 at 14:24
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On January 11, 2011 at 13:03, edizzle said...
you bought $3,200 worth of Denon receivers because there was a free apple airplay update planned? so you would have bought something different or nothing at all if it had been known that it was going to be a $50 upgrade? which it was pretty well known.

lol! yeah i havent seen anyone that was willing to give this away for free since i first posted this when it was announced.

i hope you didnt buy those receivers on just that idea, they are kicka$$ AVR's
The Bitterness of Poor Quality is Remembered Long after the Sweetness of Price is Forgotten! - Benjamin Franklin
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Post 58 made on Wednesday January 12, 2011 at 11:23
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On January 11, 2011 at 13:57, M Hi Fi said...
It was advertised at CEDIA and on our website as $50 MSRP for the Upgrade.

Dealers have a demo program, for demo use. Dealers should email me for info.

You could always get the same feature from Apple for $100!

The apple includes video airplay, netflix as well as all the apps, so it may be a better value anyway.
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Post 59 made on Tuesday January 18, 2011 at 05:42
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On January 11, 2011 at 13:57, M Hi Fi said...
You could always get the same feature from Apple for $100!

Hi Matt, that doesnt actually seem to be true and would love to hear how you believe it is supposed to work.
I have just purchased a Denon 4311 and want to purchase the Airplay option as it looks great, however, I have been following the 4311 threads on AVS for some time.
A few Denon and Marantz owners have recently taken up the Airplay option only to find it is "locked" or "hijacks" the Main Zone of the AVR. You can also turn On or Off Zone 2/ Zone 3, but you HAVE to have the Main Zone on for the others to work. In a HT situation this is useless.

In most cases, myself included, Airplay will be for playing music in external Zones (like you can with the standard Net/ USB interface) and extremely unlikely to ever be played in the main zone in my HT. It seems the Denon only presents 1 "speaker" for Airplay to use, which defaults and is tied to the main zone.

AVS are running an FAQ thread with a few comments in it seperate to the normal 4311 thread. Link to FAQ

Until Denon confirms or denys this is the permanent functionality, a lot of folks are buying an ATV and using this as the Airplay interface. The current implementation of Airplay appears to be extremely limited. Do you know if this is likely to change at all?

thanks for reading

cheers
TB
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Post 60 made on Tuesday January 18, 2011 at 10:29
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On January 18, 2011 at 05:42, tb123 said...
Hi Matt, that doesnt actually seem to be true and would love to hear how you believe it is supposed to work.

The new ATV2 supports AirPlay w/ music and video. Maybe photo, I don't have one for testing. Not sure what else to explain on my comment.

I have just purchased a Denon 4311 and want to purchase the Airplay option as it looks great, however, I have been following the 4311 threads on AVS for some time.
A few Denon and Marantz owners have recently taken up the Airplay option only to find it is "locked" or "hijacks" the Main Zone of the AVR. You can also turn On or Off Zone 2/ Zone 3, but you HAVE to have the Main Zone on for the others to work. In a HT situation this is useless.

While I am aware of this from using the feature, I'm not certain as to where the implementation guidelines came from, Apple or Denon. I am not certain as to how the feature will grow within the existing products and or future products to come.

In most cases, myself included, Airplay will be for playing music in external Zones (like you can with the standard Net/ USB interface) and extremely unlikely to ever be played in the main zone in my HT. It seems the Denon only presents 1 "speaker" for Airplay to use, which defaults and is tied to the main zone.

Please note though, when adding an ATV or Airport Express these products also only present themselves as 1 "speaker".

If you look at it from another products usage, you would need multiple ATV2/Airports to achieve the same outcome with discrete control.

Maybe that's the solution, Denon+AirPlay for "Main" then ATV2 "Multi"(with a Digital to Analog converter on it). Now you'll have two feeds/control! Some will say that my suggestion is not realistic. Pause and consider how many CI's have installed multiple SAT/CBL boxes just for discrete Multi Zone music/control at a much higher cost + monthly subscription.

AVS are running an FAQ thread with a few comments in it seperate to the normal 4311 thread. Link to FAQ

Until Denon confirms or denys this is the permanent functionality, a lot of folks are buying an ATV and using this as the Airplay interface. The current implementation of Airplay appears to be extremely limited. Do you know if this is likely to change at all?

Sorry, I don't have any other info at this time on how the feature will evolve.

thanks for reading

cheers
TB

Last edited by M Hi Fi on January 18, 2011 15:57.
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