On July 17, 2010 at 12:56, BigPapa said...
I think this forum is again being attacked with non-thought and illogical musings fomented by fear.
It's easier to espouse conspiracy theories and tell everybody how smart and brave you are by telling those who don't believe your crap that they are dumb sheeple who can't handle the truth. Of course, the irony is that you're projecting: the conspiracy theorist is actually scared shitless that they don't know what hell is going on and can't make sense of what is happening in the world around them so they make up a bunch of shit that they can get their head around, espouse it, then call everyone who doesn't agree with them 'sheeple' and stupid. It's the internet version of the monster truck to compensate for a little (intellectual) penis.
Then they herd together, trying to out do each other with more crazy yet seemingly plausible theories and potentially feasible factual or logic constructs. They become what they despise: Sheeples of another herd. Out of the herd, some leaders emerge, form websites and create shitty movies, and you have another group.
You are just a sheeple too.
In the mid 90's after reading the creature from Jekyll island I did not believe any of this either. So I sent freedom of information act requests, to the IRS, Federal reserve, the FTC and so forth to discover if any of this was true, The federal reserve was the best of the bunch, there were very generous with information and frankly quite proud of who and what they are. What these agency's sent me back is what I have been telling you here all along, these are not my words they are those of the federal government.
Are you saying that the federal government deliberately sent me a bunch of junk conspiracy information?
The bottom line is I went to the best possible place to get the correct information, where did you get your information? CNN
I understand that for you to admit any of this is true may cause your whole world to come tumbling down into a big pile of self doubt, fear & uncertainty. It was the same for me many years ago.
I tried to disprove and discredit all of this as well, but the more I dug the more I realized that not only was it true, it was even worse than you could imagine.
I became so knowledgeable about all of this that I actually found my self in a debate with then congress woman Jenifer Dunn's state tax attorney, I won the debate.
I spoke at the state capital with the attorney general, the Governor and the head of the department of motor vehicles along with a few of my counterparts in a closed session about where they were granted authority to charge people a commercial excise tax on privately owned automobiles, there top guy admitted that we were right. a few years later the tax was abolished, and the charge for the average car dropped from several hundred dollars down to about $60.00.
In many ways I wish I was still like you having never know any of this stuff living a blissful life of ignorance. But please have some respect I was on the front lines fighting for your rights even though you did not deserve it.
When is the last time you even wrote a letter to you congressman, when is the last time you did anything for anyone else besides your self.
Do you even know what an AMDISA file is, do you even know that the IRS uses a different set of rules from what is made public where in they have to list you as dealing in foreign security's before they can audit you otherwise the system will reject the request.
Do you know that the 26 usc 6331 IRS code Levy may (only) be made upon the accrued salary or wages of any officer, employee, or elected official, of the United States, the District of Columbia, or any agency or instrumentality of the United States or the District of Columbia,. (this excludes you and me)
Do you know that the IRS is the collection arm of the federal reserve system, and also that the secretary of the treasury of the federal reserve system is the second acting Representative below the attorney general to Interpol which means according to title 42 that all IRS agents must file a foreign agent registration certificate every 6 months other wise they can go to jail for 5 years.
why? because the whole system is foreign.
Do you know that all the banks in the country are only allowed to do business in this country by presidential charter because the whole system is constitutional y illegal.
Take a dollar bill out of your pocket, see the two signatures
one is the treasurer of the united states of America and the other is the secretary of the treasury of the federal reserve system, why are these two signatures there? because this is the agreement by and between the Treasury depart as authorized by the president and the federal reserve to print and manage fiat money (federal reserve notes which are bills of credit) which would other wise be illegal in this country
Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States [Link: usconstitution.net]
No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
The real reason this country is so screed up now is because everyone has there head so far buried in the propaganda sand pile that there is no hope of recovery left. its your fault and my fault the government is just a reflection of our own stupidity
You get the kind of government you deserve and we completely deserve this.
What makes me so sick is all those hundreds of thousands of American soldiers who died defending the ideal that we were all supposed to be sovereign and free no taxation without representation & here this generation is pissing on their graves crying and moaning about how they should be getting more freebies from the government, how the government should fix the fact that all their jobs have gone over seas when in truth everyone watched it happen and did nothing about it when they could have.
Its so much easier to turn on the TV and watch football and isnt that a joke as well, lets all root for the home team made up out players who never lived in the home state they play for, run by the very same mega conglomerates who also control the advertising that tells you what you should look like, what to drink, how to act, who to vote for, where to invest you hard earned money. don't make waves be a socialist.