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| Topic: | For all those who said I was crazy, delusional, or just plain stupid This thread has 70 replies. Displaying posts 46 through 60. |
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| Post 46 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 03:49 |
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On July 17, 2010 at 03:33, RTI Installer said...
Here is the you tube link to the entire Edward Griffin lecture...
Once again this is not a joke nor some kind of conspiracy speech, this guy is the real deal, For two decades he has been an invited speaker at collages and banking seminars around the nation. Was that before or after he claimed to have discovered Noahs ark and the cure to cancer? The man is a raving lunatic and is taken seriously by no one except other quacks. [Link: en.wikipedia.org]
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| Post 47 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 04:48 |
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Yep he (Edward Griffin) is a Nutter , i don't need a link to validate my point of view ..as a complete crackpot myself , I know one when I see one, and he is barking.
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| Post 48 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 05:17 |
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On July 17, 2010 at 04:48, Mr Griffiths said...
Yep he (Edward Griffin) is a Nutter , i don't need a link to validate my point of view ..as a complete crackpot myself , I know one when I see one, and he is barking. Please note that Bob's statement (above) has been peer reviewed, by yours truly, and I conclude that he is indeed correct; he's barking.
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| Post 49 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 08:12 |
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On July 17, 2010 at 03:15, RTI Installer said...
Edward Griffen is a high praised and applauded author & historian, there is no way you can dis on this guy. Can we dis him , yes we can ! Can we dis him , yes we can ! Can we dis him , yes we can ! (sang to the tune of a tribe call quest's - can i kick it)
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| Post 50 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 09:34 |
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On July 17, 2010 at 08:12, Mr Griffiths said...
(sang to the tune of a tribe call quest's - can i kick it) Or Bob the builder?
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| Post 51 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 11:25 |
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On July 16, 2010 at 12:41, 39 Cent Stamp said...
Keeping a secret about a stealth bomber...something that will help defend the country that those service men and women live in is one thing...
Keeping a secret about a global conspiracy that will negatively impact 90% of the population (the poor and middle class) is a different story... agree, also, the stealth bomber is not a secret, that is why we talk about it. Was it a "secrert" for a very short time? yes, but all of these stories start with secret societies that have countless people and thousands of years. With very few people and very short time a secret can be kept, but the more you increase either of them the more ridiculous it becomes.
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| Post 52 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 12:17 |
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Oh wow, a Dan Brown Paulian.
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| Post 53 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 12:54 |
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On July 17, 2010 at 02:46, 39 Cent Stamp said...
I didn't get the story from the media.. i got it in person. I watched the value of my house go from $147,000 to $221,000 in a period of 1 year.
I watched my sisters loan officer teach her how to fake her way thru the application to buy a $400,000 town house with a $500 a week salary and 2 car notes.
I watched my whole neighborhood go into foreclosure. Here is the story of every single one of them.. They bought the house for $140-180k. took out $20,30,40k loans when their houses appraised at $220,000 and they bought trucks and boats and swimming pools and home theaters and then one day the balloon loan... ballooned!! and their mortgage went from $1300 a month to $2400 a month. And guess what? Turns out that $1000.00 extra bucks a month is hard to come up with for people who were only able to qualify for a $147,000 house.
There is no conspiracy.. Bush edited the laws and allowed the banks to be the morons that they are and guess what happens when daddy (the government) isnt there to say no and spank the asses of the bad little kids (the banks) who want to make a big mess (Americans with no understanding of anything related to finances and the houses they couldnt afford).
They threw out the formula for granting loans so that they could pass out as many loans as they could.. they knew what would happen but like the greedy bastards they are.. they also knew they would make a whole lot of money fast and be able to walk away from it without a scratch when it all came crashing down. Just borrow money from China to fund the war and use tax dollars to keep us out of 3rd world status.
This is my major gripe with anyone who complains about laws and "big brother". Its pretty OBVIOUS that no one can be trusted to do the right thing. Without laws for EVERYTHING our country would look like the mad max movies. Seriously. Just think about the things humanity is capable of.. then think of a world where no one fears jail. Scary.
IMO.. bigger government=Fewer Cannibals.
The video you posted starts out with the guy saying that the federal reserve is not part of our government. Are you seriously telling me that you believe that? Really? I cant go any further because that is total and complete nonsense.
You guys talk about secrets like the atom bomb and the stealth bomber. You realize that everyone knows about those right? The word got out.. the beans were spilled. And this is something that you could easily get people to keep their mouth shut about. Both examples were technology thats meant to keep "those in the know" safe and their families and friends safe. If you told me a secret that would keep my family alive i would take it to my grave. But if you told me a secret or i discovered a secret about something thats going to harm me and my family and my friends.. you cant stop me from telling everyone.
Even if the secret benefits me.. like lets say im an arms dealer and i knew 9/11 would make me rich. You think im going to keep it a secret? You think that you can keep hundreds of people quiet when they have family and friends stretched all across the globe? You think that someone in this circle of secret keepers doesnt have a wife who has a brother who has a friend who died on 9/11?
And.. its not 1950 anymore. When things happen there are photos videos eye witness accounts. You think that their is an organization so powerful that they can keep secrets like this and manipulate the fate of the world but they let bloggers and radio show hosts who are trying to out them, live? Come on. When I bought my house last house in LA I had to fire 3 real estate agents because they kept showing me 700/800k homes. Which there was no way in hell I could afford to pay that mortgage. As it was the value of my home took a complete dump because of all the other FT's who did buy what they could not afford and their homes had to go to foreclosure. It's not a conspiracy, it is people acting like complete f$cking idiots...
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| Post 54 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 12:56 |
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On July 16, 2010 at 12:30, theKevin said...
second, one of the most respected posters here on remote central has already chimed in on the side of truth.
and he's right. it's easier to attack than to research. I think this forum is again being attacked with non-thought and illogical musings fomented by fear. It's easier to espouse conspiracy theories and tell everybody how smart and brave you are by telling those who don't believe your crap that they are dumb sheeple who can't handle the truth. Of course, the irony is that you're projecting: the conspiracy theorist is actually scared shitless that they don't know what hell is going on and can't make sense of what is happening in the world around them so they make up a bunch of shit that they can get their head around, espouse it, then call everyone who doesn't agree with them 'sheeple' and stupid. It's the internet version of the monster truck to compensate for a little (intellectual) penis. Then they herd together, trying to out do each other with more crazy yet seemingly plausible theories and potentially feasible factual or logic constructs. They become what they despise: Sheeples of another herd. Out of the herd, some leaders emerge, form websites and create shitty movies, and you have another group. You are just a sheeple too.
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| OP | Post 55 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 12:59 |
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On July 17, 2010 at 03:49, QQQ said...
Was that before or after he claimed to have discovered Noahs ark and the cure to cancer? The man is a raving lunatic and is taken seriously by no one except other quacks. [Link: en.wikipedia.org]- The individuals listed below owned banks, which in turn owned shares of stock in the Federal Reserve System (FED). The banks listed below have significant control over the New York FED district which controls the other 11 FED districts. These banks are partly foreign-owned and control the New York FED District Bank. First National Bank of New York James Stillman National City Bank, New York Mary W. Harnman National Bank of Commerce, New York A. D. Jiullard Hanover National Bank, New York Jacob Schiff Chase National Bank, New York Thomas P. Ryan Paul Warburg William Rockefeller Levi P. Morton M. T. Pyne George F. Baker Percy Pyne Mrs. G. F. St. George J. W. Sterling Katherine St. George H. P. Davidson J. P. Morgan (Equitable Life/Mutual Life) Edith Brevour T. Baker The original creators of the fed listed below according to a us congressional inquiry as was entered into the federal register
* Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin * Lazard Brothers Bank of Paris * Israel Moses Sieff Banks of Italy * Warburg Bank of Hamburg, Germany and Amsterdam * Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York * Lehman Brothers Bank of New York * Goldman Sachs Bank of New York * Chase Manhattan Bank of New York (Controlled By the Rockefeller Family Tree)
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| Post 56 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 13:07 |
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On July 17, 2010 at 02:16, RTI Installer said...
Stamp any fifth grader knows this story above as told by the media. it is not a story told by media. It is the simple reality of greed and lack of small consequences. I will bring it down to the 5 basic levels, but like in many situations the roles might not be as clear (i.e. for example in the CI world a bigger distributor might sell to a smaller one, a CI might buy a part from a retailer but if we kept it simple it would be customer-retailer-distributor-manufacturer) greedy Joe wants a house, he goes to the bank (we will leave the realtor out of this because they are just the tempting devil and don't play a role past that point) greedy banker thinks "I am evaluated on the $ of mortgages I bring in" so he says OK greedy bank thinks "prices are rising every day, the guy will put some down payment, even if it goes bad after a year or two, who cares, I will make money, so this is good" ... greedy lending institution thinks "the bank will get its money back either through interest or re-selling the place so I can give it the money it is asking for" .... greedy person buys mortgage backed bonds or funds thinking "they are safe and have a reasonable rate of return" this all works well as long the cycle remains steady and nothing goes wrong like housing prices not increasing or too many people losing their home. But in the end when too many people default, too many people take the cash out of mortgaged bonds/funds, things collapse fast. And that is what happened. too many Joes said "I can't pay my mortgage" the banks took the homes but the market price did not increase enough because there where not enough Joes looking for places, the bank owes the money to the lending institution, the lending institution can't pay the bonds/funds, the people that own them see their value decrease and they either colapse or become more conservative.... You talk about conspiracies. But why did this collapse happen in many places (countries) and it was extremely bad in the US but here in Canada there was almost nothing? It is the rules and regulations.
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| OP | Post 57 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 13:21 |
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What, do you mean this Noah's ark? The one that's in the mountain's of, and not actually on the mountain of Ararat   The Turkish government erected a visitor center right above this archaeological site you can go visit it if you can afford to get there  There is no billboard that says Noah on this thing anywhere, but it is interesting that it was found above the 6000 foot level, and that its size exactly matches the description in the bible. the biggest question you should be asking yourself is where did it come from? [Link: wyattmuseum.com]Edward Griffin did not discover Noah's Ark he just made the documentary for Ron Wyatt |On 1279352953, QQQ said... Was that before or after he claimed to have discovered Noah's ark and the cure to cancer? The man is a raving lunatic and is taken seriously by no one except other quacks. [Link: en.wikipedia.org] |
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| Post 58 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 13:35 |
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This is my major gripe with anyone who complains about laws and "big brother". Its pretty OBVIOUS that no one can be trusted to do the right thing. Without laws for EVERYTHING our country would look like the mad max movies. Seriously. Just think about the things humanity is capable of.. then think of a world where no one fears jail. Scary. not just US that is human nature. We all tend to be short sighted and greedy
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| Post 59 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 14:07 |
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I felt guilty acting like a sheeple and accepting what the mainstream media has told me. So I read some links. Griffin has been a member and officer of the conservative John Birch Society for much of his life[8][9] and a contributing editor to its magazine, The New American.
Griffin enrolled in the College for Financial Planning in Denver, Colorado,[23] became a Certified Financial Planner in 1989, and described the U.S. money system in his 1993 movie and 1994 book on the Federal Reserve System, The Creature from Jekyll Island.[1] .....The book also influenced Ron Paul during the writing of a chapter on money and the Federal Reserve in Paul's New York Times number-one bestseller, The Revolution: A Manifesto, which recommended Griffin's book on its "Reading List for a Free and Prosperous America".[28]
Hey, maybe we should all take the Red Pill! [Link: realityzone.com]
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| Post 60 made on Saturday July 17, 2010 at 14:24 |
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On July 17, 2010 at 13:21, RTI Installer said...
What, do you mean this Noah's ark? The one that's in the mountain's of, and not actually on the mountain of AraratThe Turkish government erected a visitor center right above this archaeological site you can go visit it if you can afford to get there There is no billboard that says Noah on this thing anywhere, but it is interesting that it was found above the 6000 foot level, and that its size exactly matches the description in the bible. the biggest question you should be asking yourself is where did it come from? Holy sh*t, is that who I think it is dancing on the ark?!
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